I'm worried about this...

[Bucky G]

means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp
in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and
index finger) can be placed below the top of the exposed
portion of the trigger while firing.

who's definition is that in italics?
is that written into the code or is it somebody else's interpretation?

because a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
the weapon and grip that allows the thumb to be wrapped around it are two different things

[Requiem]

Oh boy... Heeere we go...

[Bucky G]

hehehe just checking before I buy one

[SJgunguy24]

This was figured out waaaaay before you got on Calguns.

[Bucky G]

I'm sure it was
what do you mean by figured out?

[SJgunguy24]

Legal definition of a pistol grip.

[nn3453]

Please do a search. This one has been asked a million times ever since OLLs first gained popularity.

[Librarian]

means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp
in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and
index finger) can be placed below the top of the exposed
portion of the trigger while firing.

who's definition is that in italics?
is that written into the code or is it somebody else's interpretation?

because a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
the weapon and grip that allows the thumb to be wrapped around it are two different things

To answer your question, that's the definition in California's Code of Regulations: It's law.

[five.five-six]

I <3 pistol grips

[9mmepiphany]

because a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
the weapon and grip that allows the thumb to be wrapped around it are two different things

you're misreading the definition in italics.

i can't figure out where you got the above bolded section. the only reference to thumb is to delineate the web of the hand

[AndrewMendez]

stuff like THIS is what we should STICKY so folks can find it easy! Left there unlocked with the Original post having all the pertaining details and how they are interpreted and regulated.

Can you imagine all the stickys???
Too many stickys = people not reading them as often

[Bimmer2]

I've got a OLL with a Raddlock, so this is simply my curiosity...

I searched, and I found this thread, so I'm posting here. Please don't tell me to search or rant about how newbies should do searches.

d) "pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon" means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top of the exposed portion of the trigger while firing."

If I understand this, any buttstock configuration which puts the web of the hand above the exposed trigger is NOT a pistol grip.

I've got a MagPul MIAD with the fattest backstrap on it. The fatter backstraps don't just make the grip fatter, they also move the web of the hand DOWN.

Why doesn't somebody just design a new "non-pistol grip" that would move the web of the hand UP a bit from USGI? Wouldn't that NOT be an illegal "pistol grip"?

Bimmer

[aplinker]

If there were no way to grip it, at all, with the web of the hand below the "magic line" then it would be GTG.

The issue with ARs is that line is quite high.

Look through MMG's .pdf he submitted on behalf of the MMG, look at the modded MMGs (a la Hopi IIRC) and also the Hammerhead to see how they dealt with the issue. Those are legal.

You can also find my thought experiment (search ghirardelli) on another way to do it.

I've got a OLL with a Raddlock, so this is simply my curiosity...

I searched, and I found this thread, so I'm posting here. Please don't tell me to search or rant about how newbies should do searches.

d) "pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon" means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top of the exposed portion of the trigger while firing."

If I understand this, any buttstock configuration which puts the web of the hand above the exposed trigger is NOT a pistol grip.

I've got a MagPul MIAD with the fattest backstrap on it. The fatter backstraps don't just make the grip fatter, they also move the web of the hand DOWN.

Why doesn't somebody just design a new "non-pistol grip" that would move the web of the hand UP a bit from USGI? Wouldn't that NOT be an illegal "pistol grip"?

Bimmer

[tankerman]

Dude, you cranked out 400+ posts in the last 2-3 months, maybe slow down and start reading some threads.

[NiteQwill]

This thread makes me have butterflies in my stomach