Legal Pistol Grip on Mini-14

[Rastoff]

I know this has been discussed here before. I did a search and couldn't find a specific answer to this question. Maybe I'm 'search challenged'.

Anyway, I'd like to put a pistol grip on my Mini-14. Am I correct in that it's legal as long as I need a tool to remove the magazine?

I've been considering creating a new mag release that will require a tool to operate it. I'm fairly certain that this will make it legal to put a pistol grip stock on it.

Thoughts?

[blackrifle242]

If you could create a mag lock for it then it would be legal to install any of the "evil features". I have the same thing going on with an M1A. I want to put a Sage EBR stock on it but I would have to install a mag lock and then I couldn't use my 20 Rd mags that I have saved up. I don't think that it's a good trade to take a legal rifle that accepts det. mags and converting it.

[Tumerboy]

and it meets the OAL and barrel length requirements (i.e. don't put a pistol grip + folding stock on there without some other work)

[IrishPirate]

yeah you'd be legal....but why go through the hassle? Bullet Buttons are like $20 for Mini-14's. Simple, easy, done.

[IsaacGlass]

If you could create a mag lock for it then it would be legal to install any of the "evil features". I have the same thing going on with an M1A. I want to put a Sage EBR stock on it but I would have to install a mag lock and then I couldn't use my 20 Rd mags that I have saved up. I don't think that it's a good trade to take a legal rifle that accepts det. mags and converting it.

You might want to recheck the flow chart. From what I understand, anytime there's a BB or mag lock device in place = 10 round magazine.

[SJgunguy24]

You might want to recheck the flow chart. From what I understand, anytime there's a BB or mag lock device in place = 10 round magazine.

Mag lock ten or less.
Featureless, no lock.......30's all day long

[sytfu_RR]

If you could create a mag lock for it then it would be legal to install any of the "evil features". I have the same thing going on with an M1A. I want to put a Sage EBR stock on it but I would have to install a mag lock and then I couldn't use my 20 Rd mags that I have saved up. I don't think that it's a good trade to take a legal rifle that accepts det. mags and converting it.

You might want to recheck the flow chart. From what I understand, anytime there's a BB or mag lock device in place = 10 round magazine.

He said he " COULD NOT " use his 20rd mags he has saved up. I see nothing wrong with what was said.
Maglock = Evil Features ( 10 rd limit as long as OAL is met )
No Maglock = Featureless ( High cap mags GTG )

[IsaacGlass]

Yup, my bad misread blackrifle242 statement.

[Seesm]

Making a mag lock from the std mag release is not hard at all... All easy and cool makes it look sick but no more 15-20's-30's or 40's anymore... That is why I keep my std stock on it even though I want a pistol grip on my Mini 14.

Funny I think the law makers think your more deadly with a pistol grip... Funny huh...?

[Cokebottle]

Just keep in mind if designing your own maglock that a "cover" or "setscrew" isn't good enough.

One of the early AR locks was a setscrew that had to be backed out... problem was, once it was backed out, it did not have to be tightened again in order to fire the weapon. As soon as the screw was loosened, the gun could again accept a detachable mag.

By the same token, a cover over the release that pivots out of the way after removing a screw would be a similar idea (and problem).
Now, a cover with a small hole drilled in it so that you could not press the release without a tool would be GTG.

[Requiem]

has anyone made one for the M14's yet? I remember a few threads involving a piece of hackasaw blade slipped in between the mag release latch on the trigger group which was effective and I used it on my Socom, but I'm wondering if there have been any new developments?

[Rastoff]

yeah you'd be legal....but why go through the hassle? Bullet Buttons are like $20 for Mini-14's. Simple, easy, done.

There's a Bullet Button for a Mini-14? I've never seen one. Where can I get it?


Am I understanding you guys correctly, if I have some sort of mag lock, I can use mags with >10 rounds?

My ignorance abounds on this subject.

[Cokebottle]

Am I understanding you guys correctly, if I have some sort of mag lock, I can use mags with >10 rounds?

No!!!

A locking mag limits you to no more than 10 rounds.
A detachable mag is legal with 20, 30, 40, or drums... as long as you owned the mags prior to the ban.

[chsk9]

I have owned and shot mini's since 1987 and there has never been a moment (well... OK, a brief moment watching the A-Team...) when I wanted a pistol grip for my mini...

[Seesm]

Just keep in mind if designing your own maglock that a "cover" or "setscrew" isn't good enough.

One of the early AR locks was a setscrew that had to be backed out... problem was, once it was backed out, it did not have to be tightened again in order to fire the weapon. As soon as the screw was loosened, the gun could again accept a detachable mag.

By the same token, a cover over the release that pivots out of the way after removing a screw would be a similar idea (and problem).
Now, a cover with a small hole drilled in it so that you could not press the release without a tool would be GTG.

No set screws... Easy mod. Easier than all these.

I have owned and shot mini's since 1987 and there has never been a moment (well... OK, a brief moment watching the A-Team...) when I wanted a pistol grip for my mini...

Hahha soo when I wanted one as well... But sometimes still do want it.