Looks like its coming out within the next 6-12 months...looks like a bad ***** gun and will cost a fortune from what I am hearing...worth saving up for? Anyone have any info or comments on this gun?
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Nah, why waste your money on a proprietary gun assembled by a bully company.Originally Posted By CTbuilder1 @ arfcom:
A lot of time and energy goes into thinking up ways to make perfectly good rifles into something dumb. Single shot ARs are gay. AR pistols are also gay. Just my opinion, of course, but a single shot AR pistol would be an AIDS cannon. -
Get an LWRC instead.Please read the Calguns Wiki
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--Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"Comment
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LWRC for the win. Don't waste the time/money on an HK. It's bull**** they messed with the spacing on the takedown pins, it's bull**** they delayed bringing it to market for as long as they have, and it's bull**** that they are going to charge so much for it.
Other than their name being associated with tacticool badassness, they have no excuse for the price hike over other comparable rifles. And with their customer service the way it is, and the other options coming to market in recent years, I don't know that they'll retain the tacticool element for that much longer.
And I'm no HK hater, they make a lot of great products... but the 416/556/MR223 whatever they're calling it, is no better rifle than the LWRC M6, and they want nearly twice as much for it? No thanks.Comment
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Wouldn't this just be an upper?
Or will they be made in the USA?
I remember reading a while back that they were not compatible with normal AR-15s due to German gun export laws (for non-military/police). Might not be true, but that is what I read.
They've been out a while in other countries.
Not interested in one personally, but how much are they going to sell for?Comment
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Forget HK support the smaller business like POF, LWRC and Addax (no pun intended) Hk customer service is the worst in the gun business...screw them!!! Took those Lousy Bastar#@ 1 year to finally return a phone call. Just ranting I'm not a jerk unless jerked around first.Comment
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Please read the Calguns Wiki
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
--Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"Comment
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It's quite true. The upper and lower of the HK556 are not compatible with mil-spec AR uppers and lowers. You will not be able to use the HK556 upper on your AR nor your upper on the HK556 lower.Wouldn't this just be an upper?
Or will they be made in the USA?
I remember reading a while back that they were not compatible with normal AR-15s due to German gun export laws (for non-military/police). Might not be true, but that is what I read.
They've been out a while in other countries.
Not interested in one personally, but how much are they going to sell for?
Not defending them, but HK doesn't have much control over this unfortunately. Even if the HK556 were to be 100% manufactured inside the US, their parent company HK GMBH is still bound by the restrictive German firearms export law, hence they are compelled to manufacture their civilian rifles with military incompatibility regardless of where the guns are actually manufactured.Comment
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That is really unfortunate. Especially if they are made here.It's quite true. The upper and lower of the HK556 are not compatible with mil-spec AR uppers and lowers. You will not be able to use the HK556 upper on your AR nor your upper on the HK556 lower.
Not defending them, but HK doesn't have much control over this unfortunately. Even if the HK556 were to be 100% manufactured inside the US, their parent company HK GMBH is still bound by the restrictive German firearms export law, hence they are compelled to manufacture their civilian rifles with military incompatibility regardless of where the guns are actually manufactured.
Maybe they can sell the design off to someone to make it for the civilian market?
I've heard that German gun export gun laws also drive up the price for their long guns a whole lot.Comment
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I was referring to HK as a whole company since most their stuff is one-off and can't find factory parts to save your life. POF has no problem fixing UPPERS. What else do you have problems with? Lowers? If you can't fix your own lower problem then YOU got the problem unless its out of spec. If you had a problem with your Stag lower they won't help you either being in California let alone any other company manufacturing lowers.Comment
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If you want a gas-piston AR, get a LWRC over the H&K MR556.
You can get the LWRC now, the H&K is suppose to be release sometime next year.
The LWRC is cheaper than the H&K. MSRP for the MR556 is suppose to be $2500.
The LWRC is compatible with other AR platforms/parts, the H&K is not.sigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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That's actually flat-out false.
Stag will not ship lowers or rifles to any dealer without an AW permit, even stripped lowers.
However, they will ship returned lowers directly to CA. If you have a messed-up Stag lower and ship it back to them, they'll ship a brand-new one right back to your house or dealer with the same serial number on it.
POF are just a bunch of A-Holes about California.Please read the Calguns Wiki
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
--Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"Comment
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