Value on breakdown Model 97 or Model 12?

[JPglee1]

Hey guys... whats the approximate value/cost on a shooter-grade (meaning a truck gun/shooter non collector) Model 1897 *or* Model 12 break-down pump shotgun??

I REALLY wanna get a '97 break down with the mag-dump buttons but I'm not sure what they are worth/what they cost.






J

[schmud0811]

i have one got anything you want to trade?

[nearsightednate]

I see '97's go from $ 400 on up depending on condition. I've only seen 1 model 12 and it was in a gunstore and they were asking $ 495.

Nate

[metalhead357]

Well, I guess I went against the grain...and will inevitably pisssomeone off~ I bought one 1897 off a member here for $100 Finish was less than 50% but in decent working order...and now for the Blasphemy! I had her bead blasted and put a coat of Gunkote on her Still have to re-go through the bolt and clean it up; but there ARE deals to be had if you're patient....

[xenophobe]

Model 1897's sell for $300 in the white, and up to $500-$600 with 60-80% finish if the stock has not been cut for a recoil pad, or the barrel hasn't been chopped for a Cutts or similar compensator. Model 12s sell for about the same price range, but one in the white would be about $225, where a 60-80% finish that is uncut would hit the $500-$550 range with a full choke. Shotguns with Mod chokes that are uncut and have more than 80% finish have a premium, around $750 and up. I'm talking retail gun store prices, not what you might be lucky enough to find if you get a 'brother' deal or from someone who doesn't know what they have.

Hope that helps.

[JPglee1]

Yah man, that helps a lot.


I'd like to find one that I could paint and cut the barrel down to 18.5" and cut the LOP down a tad...heck I'd even consider a pistol grip

I dont care about collector value, I want one for a couple reasons, but not for keeping it nice or anything.

Thanks for all the help, I'd much rather have a serviceable reliable '97 than my 500A, if it were a take down/mag dump model.


J

P.s. Do they make 20GA version? I prefer 12GA but 20GA or 16GA is ok too.

[mj1]

Just buy the Norinco copy

if you plan to fool with it.

I have a 1942 and they don't make them this well any more.



Cheers
MJ

[JPglee1]

Does the Norinco copy break down tho??? Ive heard they do and Ive never been able to confirm it one way or another.

I specifically want one for that feature.


J

[wooger]

I have a takedown 97 which I bought cut down for $200. Great gun but I would never have cut it down myself.

[nearsightednate]

The Norinco's/IAC are patterned after the Solid Frame variant so they're not really able to be taken down. They were made in 16 ga. but not 20 ga.

Nate

[tankerman]

They are all takedowns.

[nearsightednate]

You may be able to "take them down" but there are 2 models refered to as solid frame and takedown models.

Nate

[superhondaz50]

Here's my 97' takedown model I bought last summer. 12GA modified choke & Made in 1915. Bought it for $99 OTD! This thing is a tack driver (as far as shotguns go) I took it out and fired 250 rounds through it and busted 250 clays!

[metalhead357]

They are all takedowns.

Unfortunately no; as nearsightednate said...there's two listings; mine is a non takedown......

[cloner]

Model 12

Model 1897's sell for $300 in the white, and up to $500-$600 with 60-80% finish if the stock has not been cut for a recoil pad, or the barrel hasn't been chopped for a Cutts or similar compensator. Model 12s sell for about the same price range, but one in the white would be about $225, where a 60-80% finish that is uncut would hit the $500-$550 range with a full choke. Shotguns with Mod chokes that are uncut and have more than 80% finish have a premium, around $750 and up. I'm talking retail gun store prices, not what you might be lucky enough to find if you get a 'brother' deal or from someone who doesn't know what they have.

Hope that helps.

Damn,

I did not realize that the Model 12 could be worth this much. My father gave me a mint condition Model 12. This thing is pristine with out a scratch on it. He bought two right after the Watts riots in L.A. when the SDPD would not furnish their officers with shotguns. He had one cut down into a short barrel the other was unused and stored. I would always pull it out and wipe it down with gun oil to keep it in good shape as a kid. Didn't expect to get it, but glad I did. I'll have to keep the value a secret from my brother though.

cloner