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  • #61
    Rob454
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    • Feb 2006
    • 11254

    Originally posted by gun toting monkeyboy
    T That would be because you know that it isn't the end-all, be-all cartridge for everything. :
    Sure there is. its a .308. Not too big not too small a cartrige. it will pretty much cover any scenario out there. Except maybe taking down a T rex. And even then just keep shooting. As for the 9mm or .223 yeah they are limited somewhat in usage but those calibers were never designed as anything but use for war between humans ammo. You guys say a 9mm is weak bla bla bla. Go get shot by a 9mm center mass and let us know how it feels. Same for a .223. Sure a 9mm or a .223 wont stop a bear but they weren't designed to. Now they were designed to stop a human. BIG difference between a 800 pound bear and a 180 pound human


    Originally posted by gun toting monkeyboy
    What he was saying was that, as an admitted noob, the rest of us were wasting out time and money going with anything other than his annointed flavors. :
    I don't feel like he was saying that at all. I think you're just taking it that way. he was simply asking a question. I agree with the OP somewhat. I always wonder to myself how some people have a ton of guns all different calibers and how they can afford to shoot them all. its funny that lots of the guns on the for sale forum are very low round count? I think a lot of people cant afford to shoot all their guns so theire either selling them or not shooting them

    Originally posted by Afterburnt
    ammo is not expensive it's your money that's worthless
    LOL thats one of the funniest likes in a long time.
    Last edited by Rob454; 10-18-2009, 10:29 AM.

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    • #62
      Vinz
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 2874

      Originally posted by cyrus
      It is hard to understand why anyone would buy anything larger than 223 or 9mm.

      I bought my first gun ever as soon as Obama was elected. I bought a beautiful M1A Load From Springfield. Marched down to WalMart and got sticker shock! $0.80 dollars a shot and the good stuff is $1.50. So I bought a Remington Milspec 5R 700. Still 308 but bolt. I figured that would save money. Both eventually went way (unfired). 223 for me! I bought a thousand rounds at the worst time for $465 (newb). Thinking more I added a .22 CZ 452 to mix. Wow, Finally something I can shoot till drop without worring about $$$.

      I have a good Engineering job and all but when I go ammo shopping I am amazing at all the rounds that are 80 cents, $1.00, $1.25, and higher. I can not even imagine buying a Big Bore rifle, who can feed it!? I never thought of shooting as being a RICH MANS SPORT, but rather just a blue collar past time. I heard it was not always this way.

      Let me hear stories back in the day about the cost of 30-06 when surplus as available. About shooting when cost was not a concern and when I could have afforded my 2nd amendment right.
      op starts an interesting topic that friends and I have discussed. Rhetorical or not. Op, it might not be your situation but im sure it rings the bells on a lot of the new gun owners that began the trek last year.

      There was a lot of rush buying during the Obama scare. People that thought they might have to have a gun. Now finding out they have to feed it.

      There is a big difference between necessity buyers and true hobbyists as far as the gun lifstyle is concerned. Most of us started when we were young and are accustom to prices and calibers that suite us.

      You have to admit the M1a is a hell of a gun to start with.

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      • #63
        Haplo
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 720

        Rob454, your avatar is relevant to my interests

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        • #64
          Noah
          Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 272

          Ammoman has .308 wolf 150g for $239 for 500rds.
          That is $0.48 a round shipped to your front door.
          Yeah there are better deals on .223 than .308 in general but to say you can't shoot a larger caliber for a similar cost is not correct.

          Take CSACANNONEERs advice and buy calibers based on your needs. If you are simply looking for cheap shooting. Check out a Airsoft pistol at wallyworld. You can shoot pistol in your garage all night until you drop.
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          • #65
            Army GI
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            • Apr 2007
            • 4284

            Last edited by Army GI; 10-18-2009, 2:34 PM.
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            • #66
              Army GI
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 4284

              Originally posted by Rob454
              I don't feel like he was saying that at all. I think you're just taking it that way. he was simply asking a question. I agree with the OP somewhat. I always wonder to myself how some people have a ton of guns all different calibers and how they can afford to shoot them all. its funny that lots of the guns on the for sale forum are very low round count? I think a lot of people cant afford to shoot all their guns so theire either selling them or not shooting them.
              True! I own several different rifles: 1898 Krag, M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, 1903 Springy, AR15, Winchester 94, and a M91/30 Mosin. I definitely fall into the category of "owning lots of different calibers, but can't afford to shoot all of them". I might shoot, at most, 100 rounds per year from each of the lesser used calibers like .30 M1 Carbine or .30-30. I only shoot the AR15 with any level of frequency. All my other rifles are for show-and-tell.
              Last edited by Army GI; 10-18-2009, 2:40 PM.
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              • #67
                MontClaire
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                • Feb 2009
                • 4859

                you are still a newbie that's why you can't understand. give it sometime. every caliber has it's purpose. read gunwiki.

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                • #68
                  tombinghamthegreat
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                  • May 2007
                  • 2785

                  Originally posted by Noah
                  Ammoman has .308 wolf 150g for $239 for 500rds.
                  That is $0.48 a round shipped to your front door.
                  +1 that. I don't understand why someone would buy most or all of their ammo from a gun store.
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                  • #69
                    mds2004
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 972

                    Ive shot dozens of calibers but my favorite is still the .22lr.
                    Of course I still use the others for hunting, paper punching, etc but the .22lr is just the most fun to me.
                    There are definitely needs for the larger calibers depending on the objective, be it hunting, long range paper punching, etc.

                    Note I did not read any of the above posts and I am certain what I said has already been posted. Im just confirming.
                    Last edited by mds2004; 10-18-2009, 2:57 PM.

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                    • #70
                      1988
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2491

                      Originally posted by MontClaire
                      ... every caliber has it's purpose.
                      +1

                      If you have no purpose, then the cheapest .22lr is all you need.

                      I paid $.03/rd of .22lr. I can't believe why others paid $.07 or more on .22lr.
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                      • #71
                        locosway
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                        • Jun 2009
                        • 11346

                        I would and do own a 9mm, and I plan on owning something in or around the .223 class. However, I would by no means limit myself to only those two rounds.

                        My main rounds for carrying in a handgun or rifle if I was in the wild would be either a 10mm (autoloader) or .44Mag (revolver) and then a .308 for a rifle (semi-auto) or a .300WSM/WM (bolt).

                        If I was to choose only two guns it would be a Glock 20 and a M14. The nice thing is I don't have to choose, so that means I can own and shoot cheaper stuff like 9mm and .22lr..
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                        • #72
                          Spirit 1
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 591

                          I remember buying the little cardboard boxes of .22 [what, 50 rounds?] for between $0.24 & $0.37 all the time, even 5 for $1.00, depending on quality & type, so that probably indicates bulk prices also, way back when.

                          I somewhat agree with your philosophical point and for me .22, 9mm and 20 ga fills a lot of needs, and I can defend myself & eat for life off of those anywhere in the world.

                          What's killing me is the price of everything on the planet is beyond sanity & it's usually junk in general. Of course that's including all the foreign stuff that was supposed to be such a potential money saver bargain for America, un-huh, right. 'They' never passed on the savings.
                          Last edited by Spirit 1; 10-18-2009, 6:21 PM.

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                          • #73
                            Amacias805
                            Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 460

                            Originally posted by freakshow10mm
                            My caliber footprint. I've owned weapons in the following cartridges:

                            25 ACP
                            256 Win Mag
                            380 ACP
                            9mm
                            38Spl
                            357 Mag
                            357 Max
                            10mm
                            41 Mag
                            45 ACP
                            45 Colt
                            44 Mag
                            50 AE
                            223
                            22-250
                            250 Savage
                            7mm-08
                            308 Win
                            300 Win
                            8mm Mauser
                            8mm Mag
                            338-06
                            376 Steyr
                            375 H&H
                            45/70

                            Currently own 223, 9mm, 10mm, and 20ga. Have no real desire to have anything else. Might play with .300 Whisper and 50 BMG for a bit.
                            Nice!

                            I own

                            25 ACP
                            30-30 win
                            22lr
                            270 win
                            223 rem
                            762x54r
                            762x39
                            17hmr
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