long range rifle

[ar15barrels]

Why not just get an Accuracy International in .338 Lapua to begin with?

Because a 338 Lapua of ANY make is so expensive to shoot that most people will have the ammo cost seriously prohibit them from putting the rounds downrange that they NEED to do to become a proficient long range shooter.

Buying an uber-magnum does NOT make you a good wind judge.
This is why we always recommend a 308 first.
Then move up to something more powerful once you master the 308 out to 1000yds.

[CSACANNONEER]

Because a 338 Lapua of ANY make is so expensive to shoot that most people will have the ammo cost seriously prohibit them from putting the rounds downrange that they NEED to do to become a proficient long range shooter.

Buying an uber-magnum does NOT make you a good wind judge.
This is why we always recommend a 308 first.
Then move up to something more powerful once you master the 308 out to 1000yds.

To be cheap, learn to read the wind by shooting .22lrs out to 200 yards!

[Requiem]

Good advice from the two above.

[sevensix2x51]

Good advice from the two above.

+1.

[m98]

a .408chytac/416barret would be a better caliber to start out a besides the 338 cost wise? Better yet go with the good ole' .50's (50DTC now). And yes, the other guys right on choosing a cheaper cal like the 308/6.5 to start out and learn the fundamentals of 1k shooting first before dumping $$$$ into a never ending pit.

[snaggletooth]

Because a 338 Lapua of ANY make is so expensive to shoot that most people will have the ammo cost seriously prohibit them from putting the rounds downrange that they NEED to do to become a proficient long range shooter.

Buying an uber-magnum does NOT make you a good wind judge.
This is why we always recommend a 308 first.
Then move up to something more powerful once you master the 308 out to 1000yds.

To be cheap, learn to read the wind by shooting .22lrs out to 200 yards!

I understand and whole heartedly agree with the that the round overpowers many who are beginning with long range shooting, and that it is cost prohibitive. However we all know fromexperience, people are not going to listen to sound advice all the time, they are just going to buy the rifle the, and want people backing them up in their decision making process.

With the AI isn't possible to change the .338 to .300 win mag? .300 win mag is a little bit more affordable and yet still gives some of the horsepower the OP is more than likely looking for. I'm just saying.

What you think with going with a .300 win mag, yeah I know you all have been pushing for .308 but I believe this person is looking for a horsepower round to punish themselves with. The least we can do is give them a round they can afford more ratably and have them fulfill their sadomasochistic desires of high recoil and still come out with being able to learn something.

[cocorador]

Can I suggest a Badger action with an AICS. If you have GA Precision build it, they have the barrels in stock and they have all or most of the wanted contours including the FTE muzzle brake that you may want to have installed. Also, if you do the AICS, I would also suggest a 2.0 for the ease of removing the bolt if you do the Badger route. The Surgeon, I'm not sure. Mine is on a McMillan A-5.

Just a suggestion. Good luck.

[swerv512]

To the OP:
just buy this and call it a day...

[B Strong]

Because a 338 Lapua of ANY make is so expensive to shoot that most people will have the ammo cost seriously prohibit them from putting the rounds downrange that they NEED to do to become a proficient long range shooter.

Buying an uber-magnum does NOT make you a good wind judge.
This is why we always recommend a 308 first.
Then move up to something more powerful once you master the 308 out to 1000yds.

+1

There's no substitute for training and practice, and 7.62 match ammo is a hell of a lot more affordable than .338L

[ar15barrels]

I believe this person is looking for a horsepower round to punish themselves with. The least we can do is give them a round they can afford more ratably and have them fulfill their sadomasochistic desires of high recoil and still come out with being able to learn something.

He should get a 16" barreled 45-70 lever gun then.

[bigjoe63]

.338LM is an awful big round for someone new to long range.

i know, but i only want to build one. i learned from motorcycles that your going to want bigger. so i rather go big once and not worry about growning out of it. or getting board...

[bombadillo]

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_135/products_id/11547

THIS ^

After shooting a couple of rounds through Skkeeter's gun here, it was pretty awesome with a nightforce 4-16? I believe thats what it was. Nice stuff very sturdy free floating and 1k plus yard capable out of the box. For the price, I could sell an AR and shoot one of those instead. Way cheaper and 300 win mag is a lot more prevalent and WAY cheaper to shoot if you're going to be heading out to the range with it. Again, this is the internet so its my personal .02c

[Hunt]

To be cheap, learn to read the wind by shooting .22lrs out to 200 yards!

good idea I'll start with my BuckMark pistol

[X-NewYawker]

Sounds like a great combo.
I never intend to shot that far myself, but if you're going to roll your own, I guess .338L is fine. Surgeon action can't be beat.

ok im planning on building another rifle now that i got my ar-15 done. i know that its a big change from the ar but im looking foward to it.


accurcy international long action stock black

surgeon xl repeater action .338 lapua

26in barrel with a 2in break.
(still dont know where to get the barrel. any ideas will be taken into consideration)

carl zeiss Victory Diavari 6-24x72
(maybe something else not a for sure on this glass)

what do you guys think?
and if you know where i can get these parts point the way.
thanks for the help

good bless our troops. especialy our snipers
delivering death at a distance
you can run but, your only going to die tired.

[X-NewYawker]

To the OP:
just buy this and call it a day...

And you guys think that Beretta .223 is UGLY? I am SO over these erector set cheek pieces.