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  • #16
    OutlawDon
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 3138

    Originally posted by sholling
    Awesome looking build and good info.

    How's the inherent accuracy/downrange power of the 6.8? What's the effective range from a 16" barrel?

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    • #17
      M9er
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 39

      R.R.A! you cant go wrong with this company. Excellent Upper's
      2 Beretta M9's, 92FS, Ruger P94 9mm, 2 Ruger P345's, Ruger SS GP100 .357, Sig 229 .40, Glock 19, Glock 22c, Glock 32, 2 Mossberg 500's,1903 Springfield 30-06, Sig 556 SCM 5.56x45, Savage .308,1 Stag/CAR-A2,1 R.R.A Elite Comp A4, Ruger M77 .223, 2 Ruger 10/22's, Ready to build another "AR" and Looking for a Nice SKS!!!

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      • #18
        Desert_AIP
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 234

        Originally posted by M9er
        R.R.A! you cant go wrong with this company. Excellent Upper's
        RRA makes a quailty product, but they are using the old spec barrels on their 6.8 rifles.

        They have changed to SPCII chamber but still in 1/10 twist.

        Current spec is no tighter than 1/11 which is needed for maximum performance of this round.

        With 1/10 you'll see ~ 100 fps slower with all rounds and can't maximize handloads due to early pressure signs.

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        • #19
          sholling
          I need a LIFE!!
          CGN Contributor
          • Sep 2007
          • 10360

          Originally posted by OutlawDon
          Awesome looking build and good info.
          Thank you. I finished her just in time to get in one range session before Inland F&G closed.

          How's the inherent accuracy/downrange power of the 6.8? What's the effective range from a 16" barrel?
          I can't speak to inherent accuracy directly because I've never had a chance to find out. I got it sighted in and ran out of time. Mine has a lapped Lothar 1:11.25 twist polygonal barrel so I would expect it to do well for a chromed bore barrel. Chuck Hawks did an analysis of the 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendel and felt the only thing holding back the 6.8 from match use was the lack of .277 match bullets. Most .270 caliber rifles are hunting rifles.

          As far as 16" vs longer I can only pass on second hand info. My understanding is that because the 6.8 SPC was designed for 14-16" barrel rifles it's within 50 fps of maximum velocity at 16". I haven't tested that so take it with a grain of salt.

          Here is a comparison of a fairly heavy bullet in a mild 6.8 SPC factory loading against 5.56 and 7.62.x51. Note that this is from a SAAMI spec barrel and a more modern barrel and capable loading should add 100fps or more at the muzzle.
          "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

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          • #20
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 56958

            Originally posted by sholling
            Here is a comparison of a fairly heavy bullet in a mild 6.8 SPC factory loading against 5.56 and 7.62.x51. Note that this is from a SAAMI spec barrel and a more modern barrel and capable loading should add 100fps or more at the muzzle.
            That's also from a 24" barrel length so expect to lose some velocity going back to a 16" barrel.

            Here are my velocity tests with factory ammo from a few years ago.


            Note that those were the original 2004 LE loads that were loaded so hot that all commercial ammo was eventually loaded to be 200fps slower.
            The lone lot of ammo on the bottom of that page was the commercial ammo.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #21
              Purple K
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN ContributorCGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2008
              • 3101

              My Stag 6.8 with a 16" barrel has bee trouble-free.
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              • #22
                sholling
                I need a LIFE!!
                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2007
                • 10360

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                That's also from a 24" barrel length so expect to lose some velocity going back to a 16" barrel.
                Do you have similar numbers dropping a 5.56 from 24" to 16"?
                "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

                Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the California Rifle & Pistol Association

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                • #23
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 56958

                  Originally posted by sholling
                  Do you have similar numbers dropping a 5.56 from 24" to 16"?
                  I could run quickload predictions, but I have never had the chance to test fire 12 different 5.56 barrels made from the same run of barrel blanks in all different lengths in one sitting like I did with the 6.8 barrels.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #24
                    SkyMag68
                    Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 476

                    stag's 7h would be better choice because its better chamber/twist rate...capable of handling hotter load..I recommend anyone interest in gettin 6.8 upper to check out http://www.ar15performance.com/ my 6.8 upper from them.

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                    • #25
                      lunchb0x
                      Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 113

                      Well just to throw out another option there's Bison Armory... Ben has great customer service and really good prices to boot. There are quite a few guys on 68forums.com that are shooting sub-moa groups with his products/builds.

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