ar15 for deer

[sportsman]

ar15 for deer

what would you guys use for bullets heavy stainless barrel 1.8 twist 16 inch

[professionalcoyotehunter]

55gr Varmint Grenade.

[LAKA90034]

I always thought .243 was the min but it looks like the letter of the law does not exclude .223...

[rumblebee]

IMO....55 grains for paper and varmints.....70+ grains for deer and the like

what would you guys use for bullets heavy stainless barrel 1.8 twist 16 inch

[technique]

I was just reading a story in American Hunter (which is supposed to air on the Outdoor Channel sometime) about a guy who hunts with an air gun(pellet) and takes down wild pigs (clean kills)!

Know your skill level and be ethical, is the moral to the story!

[HUTCH 7.62]

IMO I would go with a 20 inch or longer barrel

[rumblebee]

Dood has some serious air gun skillz! This is a different guy than I was reading about in AH....that little 70lb piggy dropped right in it's tracks

[technique]

there were a lot more on youtube at one time...Gamo had a vid up of a pretty mean boar taken with one of their pellet guns....it has been flagged.

[rksimple]

Do not use varmint grenades for deer. You want some controlled expansion, deep penetrating stuff. Barnes in the 70gr+ range.

[technique]

Sportsman..

Another thing I take into consideration when going out into the great unknown is...

Even when I'm hunting deer or Yotes or whatever....there is a chance something else might be hunting you. Not too much around Ca (mt. lions obviously) but when hunting out of state too.

I often carry a side arm but I also like having my rifle be able to take care of stuff that might wanna eat me. Though possible, I wouldn't want my life resting on a .223 with an angry bear coming for me.

[jaymz]

Dont forget to sight in with what you will be actually using. If you are in the condor zone then use the Barnes TSX after you get sighted in.

Sight in with what you are going to use, unless you are in the condor zone, then switch to something else?

Sight in with what you will be using to hunt. Period.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

55gr Varmint Grenade.

[looks for "Slap" key]

NO! No, no, no! That is great for 'yotes and varmints. It leaves a big, nasty, but usually shallow wound on bigger critters. Don't use the varminting bullets on medium game. They wound more than kill quickly and humanely.

Now, for the original poster... You aren't listening, nor does it seem like you ever intended to. Go cruise some of the hunting forums, and see what they think of noobs hunting deer with .223. And you are a noob hunter, because otherwise you would already know the answer to this question, and wouldn't have asked it. Yes, you can hunt deer successfully with a .223. And many people do every year. But many people also wound deer with it every year as well. It is NOT legal in many states for a reason. Your first obligation as a hunter isn't to get a deer. It is to insure that our tradition of hunting can be passed on to future generations. Doing the "tacti-cool noob" thing is counter-productive. You aren't using enough gun to give you a good chance at getting humane kills. You are not one of the ultra-experienced hunters who knows exactly what he is doing, and where to place the bullet. And when not to take the shot. Going out into the woods and slob hunting with your AR only lends credence to the antis who want us portrayed in the public's imagination as the murdering thugs who killed Bambi's mom. Not as responsible sportsmen. You going out without enough gun makes it that much easier for them to find wounded and disfigured deer to put on display all over the internet. If you want advise when you post on here, great. People will be happy to give it. But if all you are looking for is validation for your unwise decision, and are going to keep coming back with a bunch of "yeah, but.."s when people tell you it isn't a good idea, maybe you should head over to 24 hour campfire.

-Mb

[HUTCH 7.62]

Sportsman..

Another thing I take into consideration when going out into the great unknown is...

Even when I'm hunting dear or Yotes or whatever....there is a chance something else might be hunting you. Not too much around Ca (mt. lions obviously) but when hunting out of state too.

I often carry a side arm but I also like having my rifle be able to take care of stuff that might wanna eat me. Though possible, I wouldn't want my life resting on a .223 with an angry bear coming for me.

or mexican drug cartels

[technique]

or mexican drug cartels

I have actually run into plantations before outside of SJ in the Mt. Hamilton area. No Mexicans found though.

[rumblebee]

That's the one!....It's "Texas Hog Hunt with Gamo". Sep 10th on American Hunter TV...Outdoors Channel on Sep 10th.

there were a lot more on youtube at one time...Gamo had a vid up of a pretty mean boar taken with one of their pellet guns....it has been flagged.