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  • GunPhonatic
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 754

    My First AR build 9mm conversion



    List of parts I have so far:
    C-products 10/32 rd mags
    C-products RRA Mag block
    Stark Pistol Grip w/trigger guard
    KNS pin set
    MOE CTR stock assembly
    9mm Trigger hammer from Rainer Arms
    DPMS Trigger hammer
    9mm Buffer
    Tactical Innovations Spikes Lower Receiver
    DPMS Lower Parts Kit
    prince Bullet Button
    Spikes 9mm upper w/DD m4 rail. fake can
    PRI front site
    Matech rear site
    Aimpoint clone
    some cheap made in china VFG


    Finally got this thing done after waiting for the Upper and other small parts here it is

    Last edited by GunPhonatic; 10-16-2009, 11:39 AM.
  • #2
    Dirtbiker
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 2810

    Be prepared to swap out the C-Products mag block. Their performance is spotty at best. Try it and see how it works but it may require a swap to a RRA or Hahn block.

    I'd also buy some 32 round mag repair kits. You can then build/permeantly modify them to 10 rounds. The short 10 round mags are tough to insert/remove. The 32 round mag body allows a full grip on the mag.
    To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

    Thomas Jefferson

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    • #3
      GunPhonatic
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 754

      Originally posted by Dirtbiker
      Be prepared to swap out the C-Products mag block. Their performance is spotty at best. Try it and see how it works but it may require a swap to a RRA or Hahn block.

      I'd also buy some 32 round mag repair kits. You can then build/permeantly modify them to 10 rounds. The short 10 round mags are tough to insert/remove. The 32 round mag body allows a full grip on the mag.
      The C-products magazine does look cheapy, its plastic and I only bought it for 65 bucks. We will see how it turns out I guess. The 32 rd mags are on the way. Im having someone pin them to 10 rds for me.

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      • #4
        GunPhonatic
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 754

        Heres where I stand right now. Just waiting for the Upper from Spikes. The magazine has a good amount of play when inserted into the magwell. Is this the fault of the Magblock? Is this how they all are? Or is it just the Cproducts?
        Last edited by GunPhonatic; 08-25-2009, 10:24 AM.

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        • #5
          Lancear15
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 2629

          Please post pics when complete, I want to do a 9mm conversion eventually.
          Absolute power corrupts absolutely, even on Calguns.
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          • #6
            GunPhonatic
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 754

            Sure will, just waiting on the upper that should be here in a week or so.

            Originally posted by Lancear15
            Please post pics when complete, I want to do a 9mm conversion eventually.

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            • #7
              Gio
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 10251

              You are almost there, since you bought a Spike's Upper you can use the standard hammer since they used the CMMG Ramped Bolt in their upper.

              Here is a pic of mine:


              ^------ That is a CA Legal 10/32 mag which is in the AR at all times


              Specs:

              Sun Devil Lower
              RRA LPK
              RRA 9mm Buffer
              VM Hy-Tec Block
              Raddlock
              Spike's Tactical Custom Made 9mm with Fake Can
              Magpul's CTR, MIAD,XTM, ASAP, and MS2
              EOTech 516
              (Not shown is a propriotory fin I made to make it Featureless)

              Sorry for threadjacking, but the more people see around the Bay Area hopefully the more we will see built

              -Gio
              Last edited by Gio; 08-25-2009, 7:36 PM.
              ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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              • #8
                GunPhonatic
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 754

                I did not know that about the hammer Gio. Will theere be any issues if I use the 9mm hammer though? Nice Rifle!

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                • #9
                  Gio
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10251

                  Originally posted by GLocksterMan
                  I did not know that about the hammer Gio. Will theere be any issues if I use the 9mm hammer though? Nice Rifle!
                  I am not sure, I would try it first and see if it works or not then try a regular hammer.

                  Also thanks for the compliment, it shoots like a dream plus 32 rounds down the barrel at a time is nice

                  -Gio
                  ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                  • #10
                    Cyclepath
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 738

                    You may want to check with Spike's about the hammer. I think it is fine but is ramped so you can use it with regular hammer. CMMG actually recommends a DPMS style standard AR hammer. They do not have a notch on the face and will work fine if you decided to use a .223 upper.

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                    • #11
                      GunPhonatic
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 754

                      Thanks for the info guys.

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                      • #12
                        Dirtbiker
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2810

                        I have a RRA mag block and C/products mags with no play. If you have a loose fitting mag it is the C/products mag block.

                        It may not have much effect on function if you keep your hand off of the mag during firing. I'd start saving up for a Hahn Maching mag block, they are the cat's a**
                        To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

                        Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #13
                          Fate
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 9545

                          Originally posted by Gio
                          it shoots like a dream plus 32 rounds down the barrel at a time is nice
                          Hope you're using 32 round mags out of state (as you've got a bullet button on there)
                          sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

                          "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
                          , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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                          • #14
                            MasterYong
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 2724

                            Originally posted by Fate
                            Hope you're using 32 round mags out of state (as you've got a bullet button on there)
                            he said in another post that what was not showing in the pic was a custom grip fin that he had made.

                            Rifle = featureless = pre-2000 standard-cap mags OK
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                            • #15
                              Fate
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 9545

                              Originally posted by MasterYong
                              he said in another post that what was not showing in the pic was a custom grip fin that he had made.

                              Rifle = featureless = pre-2000 standard-cap mags OK
                              Ok, missed that.

                              However, better have a pinned or fixed stock now and that still doesn't explain away the photo with a high cap mag in a fixed mag build (or did he say that was modified to a 10/32 and I missed that too?).

                              Not trying to be a jerk, but posting pics of a rifle that appear to be in a configuration that's a felony on a DOJ monitored forum is cause for some concern. There's a lot of asterisks that need to be accounted for since he never mentioned modified mags, talks about 32-round mag bliss, has a CA location in his profile and shows a pic of a bullet-button build with an apparent high cap mag.
                              Last edited by Fate; 08-25-2009, 12:44 PM.
                              sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

                              "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
                              , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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