Function Testing with Blanks?

[Jason762]

I want to do a function test on my FAL's magazines using a grip that I cannot wrap my thumb around and pre-ban magazines.

If I attach a blank firing device (like this one: http://www.dsarms.com/G1-Quick-Detac...oductinfo/680/) will the FAL cycle on blanks?

I have the muzzble break with the two holes and a notch like this:



Will the above mentioned BFA work with this? How reliable are blanks with the proper gas setting and BFA?

And before you ask why I'm not using real ammo, two things:

1) 7.62NATO ammo is expensive
2) The range doesn't allow rapid fire with live ammo. I figure I can take my FAL to the IPSC range, and let off with blanks. No harm done to anything.

Thanks,
Jason

[aplinker]

At least you didn't say you'd do the testing in your house. I still think you deserve this:

[Jason762]

Care to explain why you think I deserve that?

What's my stupidity issue here? I've never fired blanks before. I'm fairly sure it'd cycle, Hollywood has used guns with blanks, then again it's Hollywood.

My other questions were reliably and would A work with B?

Perhaps I should be more specific... would this cycle in a FAL?

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8628&dir=

[aplinker]

Mostly just messing with you.

The problem is that, if it doesn't work, you're left wondering if it's the blanks or the rifle. Even if it does work, it might not with real ammo (less likely).

I see no way to avoid using real ammo if you really want to know how the rifle runs.

[socomIInato]

looks like that particular BFA G1 is used as a replacement for the quick detach G1 flash hider. so if you don`t have this particular flash hider/barrel setup. the answer would be NO. The web link you gave shows this setup. most other FAL BFA screw into the threads on inside of muzzlebreak on FAL`s. besides using blanks to function test a rifle is not logical, barrel pressures and chamber pressures are quite a bit different. best to buy real ammo and follow GAS SETTING PROCEDURES for your FAL.

[joelogic]

If ammo is too expensive to test your rifle how are you going to sight it in. Just kidding. But you not going to be able to shoot much if ammo is too expensive.

[socomIInato]

If ammo is too expensive to test your rifle how are you going to sight it in. Just kidding. But you not going to be able to shoot much if ammo is too expensive.

maybe he could use those laser cartridges

[Beelzy]

Just fire the thing......sell a kidney to feed it, but fire it.

Blanks..........they hardly EVER work correctly.

[Jason762]

Guys - I'm not sighting in my rifle.

What I want to do is test my mags on rapid fire.

My range (RRG&C) only allows 4 seconds between shots. In order to do rapid fire I'd need to compete in a DCM match (and even then, just 10 rounds with rapid fire).

Or I could take it to the IPSC range. Here's why I would use blanks instead of live ammo - bit of a waste dumping rounds into an IPSC target at 10 yards, innit?

[xrMike]

Listen to what they're saying: You gots to test with the same stuff you plan on using; otherwise, you're testing something else.

[JTROKS]

Jason, I'd say do it just for fun. If the blanks cycles the action and the mag keeps feeding it until running dry, would that make you happy? I see folks shooting airsoft at a real range and they are having a blast. I don't see why it won't be fun doing a mag dump with blanks. Are you talking about Richmond R&GC? If it is I want to see when you do it, just make sure live rounds don't get in there when you shoot it.

[socomIInato]

Guys - I'm not sighting in my rifle.

What I want to do is test my mags on rapid fire, and check out another problem I've been having.

Sometimes when I shoot, the fired cartridge will eject, the bolt strips another round into the chamber, but when I pull the trigger it just goes "click".

The other issue is that at my range (RRG&C) there are only 4 seconds allowed between shots. In order to do rapid fire I'd need to compete in a DCM match (and even then, just 10 rounds with rapid fire).

Or I could take it to the IPSC range. Here's why I would use blanks instead of live ammo - bit of a waste dumping rounds into an IPSC target at 10 yards, innit? With blanks I get to see how the mag did and if I still get that "click" after chambering a live round.

when it just goes click, check your ammo to see if primer has a indentation on it. if it does possible defective ammo or firing pin. make sure bolt assly is clean and firing pin free. FAL`s will not fire unless bolt is in locked position, firing pin is out of alignment with hammer to prevent unlocked bolt at time of firing. this is a safety device. no indentation after trigger pulled and hammer falls would indicate either firing pin defective or obstructed, or bolt out of lock condition.

[joelogic]

+1 for socom. A FAL will not fire with the bolt out of battery. My gun was doing the same thing. Lube it up and it will shoot fine.

[B Strong]

I want to do a function test on my FAL.

If I attach a blank firing device (like this one: http://www.dsarms.com/G1-Quick-Detac...oductinfo/680/) will the FAL cycle on blanks?

I have the muzzble break with the two holes and a notch like this:



Will the above mentioned BFA work with this? How reliable are blanks with the proper gas setting and BFA?

And before you ask why I'm not using real ammo, two things:

1) 7.62NATO ammo is expensive
2) The range doesn't allow rapid fire with live ammo. I figure I can take my FAL to the IPSC range, and let off with blanks. No harm done to anything.

Thanks,
Jason

Function testing by definition means that you test the function of the piece with live ammo.

If you went to the trouble to test with blanks, the only thing that you would have proved is that your rifle feeds and fires...blanks...

On the fal, you also have to set the gas position, and you'll need a different setting for blanks than what you'd need for live ammo.

[stix213]

Guys - I'm not sighting in my rifle.

What I want to do is test my mags on rapid fire, and check out another problem I've been having.

Sometimes when I shoot, the fired cartridge will eject, the bolt strips another round into the chamber, but when I pull the trigger it just goes "click".

The other issue is that at my range (RRG&C) there are only 4 seconds allowed between shots. In order to do rapid fire I'd need to compete in a DCM match (and even then, just 10 rounds with rapid fire).

Or I could take it to the IPSC range. Here's why I would use blanks instead of live ammo - bit of a waste dumping rounds into an IPSC target at 10 yards, innit? With blanks I get to see how the mag did and if I still get that "click" after chambering a live round.

Just go to a place where you aren't being baby sat by a range master, as in go somewhere other than your usual range. Then just rapid fire away.