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  • Dmerrell
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 14

    Mag Lock Configuration

    Has anyone else experienced problems with the fixed mag configuration? I have had on at least two occasions, jams due to a feed/extraction issue where I could not release my magazine and I could not separate the action of the upper receiver because the bolt carrier was not in the full forward, Battery position. I found this to be extremely dangerous to resolve and I was wondering if this is a common issue for others. I normally do not have any feed issues but this has presented itself as I said more than once. It bothers me that these stupid laws, because of "scary" cosmetic features, have driven a workaround that alters the design of the weapons functionality that could be detrimental to the safety and handling of the operator. These stupid legislators wouldn't know an unsafe feature if it bit them in the face.
  • #2
    L4D
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3053

    Yes
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    • #3
      cz74
      Senior Member
      • May 2020
      • 912

      That is why I go "featureless" and after we move to Nevada later this year, simple swap to enjoy free state.

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      • #4
        edgerly779
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2009
        • 19871

        So how did you fix it? Remove buffer tube to realease bolt?

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        • #5
          K001
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2014
          • 1003

          Remove bottom plate of fixed mag to drop rounds out to facilitate releasing fixed mag!
          03-FFL/COE

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          • #6
            SkyHawk
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Sep 2012
            • 23490

            Yes you either be sure you run mags that have easy to remove baseplates, and hope that evacuating the mag is enough to help you clear the jam, or you go featureless and forget all that maglock and 10rd nonsense.
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            • #7
              Dmerrell
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2017
              • 14

              Originally posted by edgerly779
              So how did you fix it? Remove buffer tube to realease bolt?
              In the couple of times this has happened I was able to pull back on the bolt release to relieve enough pressure on the jam and pull the round out but it was nerve wracking to say the least. I really don't like the situation and it has made me question going with the mag lock set up. I was able to get the mag out which helped.
              Last edited by Dmerrell; 08-04-2023, 7:41 PM.

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              • #8
                Dmerrell
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2017
                • 14

                Originally posted by edgerly779
                So how did you fix it? Remove buffer tube to realease bolt?
                If I remember correctly I was able to either get enough of gap between the U/L receiver to release the mag or I removed the maglock. It was a while back when it last happened.

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                • #9
                  RikersBeard
                  Member
                  • Dec 2022
                  • 113

                  I've had double feed issues pop up with my Cross Armory SafeMag and Quickpins setup.

                  I pushed out the front take down pin which breaks the action just a bit, but it's not enough to release the mag. Then I squeeze the Quick Pins to break the rear action so the upper can move a bit, then the mag drops which drops one of the stuck rounds. Once it drops, I close it back up, close the front pin, then cycle the charging handle a few times until the other round ejects.

                  It's not ideal, but it works.

                  Reno May has a good video on it:

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                  • #10
                    momoney1970
                    Junior Member
                    • Jul 2021
                    • 93

                    I haven?t had a jam at the range, but I know that when my bolt is locked back, there is enough space between the upper and lower for me to drop mags. Haven?t confirmed while jammed up tho.

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                    • #11
                      sfvshooter
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2016
                      • 1199

                      Originally posted by Dmerrell
                      Has anyone else experienced problems with the fixed mag configuration? I have had on at least two occasions, jams due to a feed/extraction issue where I could not release my magazine and I could not separate the action of the upper receiver because the bolt carrier was not in the full forward, Battery position. I found this to be extremely dangerous to resolve and I was wondering if this is a common issue for others. I normally do not have any feed issues but this has presented itself as I said more than once. It bothers me that these stupid laws, because of "scary" cosmetic features, have driven a workaround that alters the design of the weapons functionality that could be detrimental to the safety and handling of the operator. These stupid legislators wouldn't know an unsafe feature if it bit them in the face.
                      Fixed mag like ar maglock or compmag?

                      I have no experience with compmag other than seeing numerous people at ranges having malfunctions just like the one you described.

                      I have several rifles with ar maglocks and I've yet to experience any issues, but these are just range rifles. All my SHTF rifles are RAW. If I didn't have these, I'd probably stick to featureless.

                      And I think I've seen people resolve their issues by removing the bottom of their fixed mags to remove rounds before being able to disassemble their rifles.
                      Too many rifles, not enough time...

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                      • #12
                        peppermintman
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1943

                        Just go featureless and be done with it. Those things are a OITA for AR’s. Sooo much easier to just push the button and drop the mag. There’s nothing not 3 screws so the fin comes off very easy.

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                        • #13
                          jimbo74
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 2923

                          Originally posted by peppermintman
                          There?s nothing not 3 screws so the fin comes off very easy.

                          then felony. so.....
                          "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                          CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                          ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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                          • #14
                            Angrysnarf
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2015
                            • 2858

                            Originally posted by jimbo74
                            then felony. so.....
                            Not in 2 weeks

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                            • #15
                              Angrysnarf
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 2858

                              I use two

                              Fngr
                              Comp mag


                              No issues yet luckily

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