CLP

[eighteenninetytwo]

read in a long long thread that the military no longer use Break free CLP.
Can anyone tell me what the are using now instead and if it's available commercially?

[THT]

No idea what they're using but I suggest Weaponshield.

[socaldsal]

ROYCO CLP

NSN 9150-01-102-1473

From elsewhere:

"ROYCO uses a 40% solution of solvent in their mixture for CLP, Break-Free CLP uses a 20% mixture.

Break-Free CLP for the Military market is called the D-5 formula, and meets a -65 degree viscosity requirement.

ROYCO's CLP meets the same standard.

Break-Free CLP that is manufactured for the civilian market (This includes the Police) is called the E formula. This is the civilian and export version, the US Military being the only people who use the D-5 Formula.

The E Formula uses only a 12% mixture of solvent in the formula. There is no difference in any of the other ingredients of the formula. The minimum viscosity temp for the E formula is -75 degrees.

The Break-Free CLP (both versions) formula also includes 1% (by weight) of Teflon or PTFE, ROYCO doesn't use any.

A little history:

Uncle Sam wanted a CLP for use by the Military and asked Break-Free in 1979 to devlop it.

In 1980 the U.S. Military started to use Break-Free's CLP.

Break-Free wanted to be able to market their CLP to the civilian market, and the only restriction that Uncle Sam asked for was that the civilian Break-Free be the same as the Military version (in case Johnny bought Break-Free at Wally World).

In 1987 Break-Free lost the contract as the main supplier of CLP. The contract has bounced back between ROYCO and Break-Free for a few years now. Break-Free still sells plenty of their CLP to the Military, most of it through open purchase (Government Credit Card).

In the end:

No difference in the basic ingredents for Break-Free CLP and ROYCO CLP.

ROYCO uses more solvent in their formula.

No difference in the ingredients for Military and Civilian Break-Free, the Civilian formula uses less solvent."

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Most armorer's rooms are still full of a ton of Breakfree product, and the new stuff gets stored in the back. Just like everything else.

[dchang0]

LOL--all that argument over Breakfree CLP versus the new stuff, and it turns out they're the same active ingredients, just in different (unknown) concentrations?!

[Pryde]

Ahh, good old CLP.

A bottle of compromise that does nothing well.

[Barney Gumble]

I recommend Slip 2000 and I think you will be hearing more and more about it in the next year or two. It's really on the upsurge because it lasts much longer than CLP and it's non-toxic.

[tomd1584]

I recommend Slip 2000 and I think you will be hearing more and more about it in the next year or two. It's really on the upsurge because it lasts much longer than CLP and it's non-toxic.

+100
This stuff works great and doesnt smell.

[Axewound]

CLP doubles as my deodorant

[Prc329]

That is why i like Mpro7 for cleaning my AR and handguns. I may give slip a try since it doesn't smell. I hate that about CLP can't clean on my garage with the door closed.

[toopercentmlk]

Ahh, good old CLP.

A bottle of compromise that does nothing well.

Yet gets everything done...

[swerv512]

I recommend Slip 2000 and I think you will be hearing more and more about it in the next year or two. It's really on the upsurge because it lasts much longer than CLP and it's non-toxic.

HA! i thought i was the only one using SLiP 2000 on my guns.... Been using that stuff for years. it makes dry ARs shine, pistols gleam, and shotguns sparkle...

[socaldsal]

LOL--all that argument over Breakfree CLP versus the new stuff, and it turns out they're the same active ingredients, just in different (unknown) concentrations?!

Yup. Minus teflon on one. On tests for an M4 the biggest difference in determining accuracy wasn't lube.......it was AMMO. M855 is...meh. Splitting hairs with which lube is supposed to be better. Like I stated, not every knuckledragger can afford (or wants to buy) the highest, best performing lube, especially if they transfer a lot from FOB to FOB to wherever. They will take what's issued and save for that first awesome beer at home. The muj still get shot in the face with every head to head running gunfight with the troops.....who run on CLP....

Is there better? Yes, but it does the job OK, not stellar, but good enough...Just like a Popeil product. I like that bottle of compromise line though, and I'm in agreement with it. Mediocrity in a bottle!

[Someoneelseok]

Mobil 1 Motor Oil SAE 10W-30

[SanSacto]

For lube what do you think? SLiP 2000 EWL or WeaponShield?

[hkdad]

All BS... i'm using break free CLP on all my rifles and handguns + (door knobs, hinges, my sons BMX bike, on my mechanic tools, on rusty bolts, in my engine compartment, etc... etc...) never had a single effin problem with it. my 4 yr old AR still shoots the same groupings after cleaning it with break free CLP for more than 7k rounds.