ACOG vs. red dot

[Rcjackrabbit]

I know both of these two options can be made to work at all distances.

However, what do you think are the ranges that each of these are the optimal choice on a fighting rifle.

Assume a 3.5x or 4x ACOG and a 2 MOA dot like an Aimpoint T2.

Example:

Red dot - 0 to ? yards

ACOG - ? to ? yards

[jarhead714]

Red dot, ideally 100 yards. ACOG, ideally more than 100 yards out to 5-600 or so.

[FeuerFrei]

I know both of these two options can be made to work at all distances.

However, what do you think are the ranges that each of these are the optimal choice on a fighting rifle.

Assume a 3.5x or 4x ACOG and a 2 MOA dot like an Aimpoint T2.

Example:

Red dot - 0 to ? yards

ACOG - ? to ? yards

I can use the reticle lines on an ACOG to gauge distance. Can't do that with a rds.

[Rcjackrabbit]

[FeuerFrei]

The best zero then?

If using the same ammo and making shots out to 350yds using a "hunters zero" with m855 should result in point and shoot/hit results. It does for me. Look up MPBR zero.

Your sweet spot relies on a particular load consistent with your zero.

IMO a "fighting rifle" should have an easy way to range your target so you know if you're in the sweet spot or not. The rds can do this too once you dope the rifle/load to a known size target and know where to hold.

That make sense?

I can do 400yds with an acog or my m4 rds. It's just easier with my acogs. ta33's and ta11.

[Rcjackrabbit]

[crufflers]

I think he is trying to answer your question but it is a complex question and you didn't tell anyone what reticle is on the ACOG did you? OK, you said a actual / simple 2 MOA DOT for the RDS... you want a generic rating to be applied, but RDS depend greatly on the shooter's eyes.

He's bringing up ballistics and bullet drop and zeros... all applicable to your question IMHO.

For me 4X is a lot better than 1x for distance and I want some kind of BDC. I have shot 300-500 with a 4x with BDC... and with adjustable irons designed for caliber... not with a RDS. That's my 2 cents.

I did the same thing huh?

[Rcjackrabbit]

OMG. I am surrounded by idiots.

[Rcjackrabbit]

Jarhead understood the question.

[Mayor McRifle]

I know both of these two options can be made to work at all distances.

However, what do you think are the ranges that each of these are the optimal choice on a fighting rifle.

Assume a 3.5x or 4x ACOG and a 2 MOA dot like an Aimpoint T2.

Example:

Red dot - 0 to ? yards

ACOG - ? to ? yards

[ir0nclash86]

I like turtles

[crufflers]

OMG. I am surrounded by idiots.

I don't understand.

[mustangsixtwoseven_five]

IMHO having owned both....
ACOG 3.5.... good both eyes open shooting from 0 to 250ish
Red dot..... 0 out to 100-150ish.

and that "I like turtles" kid was epic

[Lonestargrizzly]

I like turtles

Is your avatar a pic of Jesus bearing the cross of being a 240b gunner??? Awesome.
Would be more accurate if he also had an m4 because 1 gun is not enough, and 2 guns is too few...

[deckhandmike]

Red dot to a 100, 4x to about 250. Depends of course on the size of the target and how stable your rest is.

I was a bad *** at the range with my red dot out to 250 but when trying to shoot moving coyotes off hand my effective range dropped to about a 100.

Personally I prefer lvpo for anything past a 100.