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  • sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19586

    AR handguard length?

    Is there a rule of thumb for the length needed for an AR free float handguard?

    Like if I intend to use an 11.5" barrel, is there a magic number to add or subtract to the barrel length to determine the length of handguard needed?
  • #2
    D.A.V.I.D.
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    CGN Contributor
    • Apr 2015
    • 1876

    1" seems to be the standard

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    • #3
      SigSauerP226
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2007
      • 876

      Think it’s mostly preference. Longer gives you more rail space for accessories if you need them, potentially protects the barrel, gives you more room to rest the gun up against or on things, allows your support hand hand to be further out, puts the front iron sight or bipod further out. Shorter saves a little weight, but I think that’s why we see more full length now, not sure if there is any real benefit to shorter other than weight. Oddly enough I actually like the look of a 12” handguard on a 16” barrel better, but my most recent builder set I went 15” handguard. If you use a linear comp on an 11.5, I think a 12” handguard would be nice with the only the end of the comp sticking out of the handguard.

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      • #4
        tradecraft
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 4616

        Most people will at minimum want to cover their gas block.
        Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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        • #5
          r1ghtw1ng
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 1335

          I know for a perfect flush fit of the Surefire warcomp, a Geissele true 13" rail is perfect for a 13.7" barrel.

          Likewise, a Geissele 9.5" rail is perfect for a 10.3" barrel. I would say .7-.8" is the sweet spot for a flush fit.

          Careful, some rail manufacturers (BCM) say 13" or 15" rails but are off by up to .5".

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          • #6
            Sicarius
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2008
            • 2917

            Longer sight radius if you use irons.
            Kevin

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            • #7
              bigstick61
              Veteran Member
              • May 2008
              • 3211

              Originally posted by SigSauerP226
              Think it’s mostly preference. Longer gives you more rail space for accessories if you need them, potentially protects the barrel, gives you more room to rest the gun up against or on things, allows your support hand hand to be further out, puts the front iron sight or bipod further out. Shorter saves a little weight, but I think that’s why we see more full length now, not sure if there is any real benefit to shorter other than weight. Oddly enough I actually like the look of a 12” handguard on a 16” barrel better, but my most recent builder set I went 15” handguard. If you use a linear comp on an 11.5, I think a 12” handguard would be nice with the only the end of the comp sticking out of the handguard.
              Yeah, it really depends on what you want to do with it. I wanted to be able to use a bayonet, among other things, as well as to cover the gas block completely, which dictated a particular length range for that to work. In the case below, I used a 10.5" handguard with a 16" mid-length barrel. I would say the shorter end should be the minimum that will cover the gas block entirely or butt up against a FSB or equivalent, the maximum the longest that will work the muzzle device and whether or not a suppressor is desired for use.

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              • #8
                BucDan
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 4062

                The modern look is having the rail as long as possible.

                I've always been a fan of the gas block being exposed, ever so slightly, by .5" or 1". I thought it looked good. KAC and LMT did this back in the days, I loved the look.

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                • #9
                  sigstroker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 19586

                  I wanted to know what was considered standard because I'll probably get mine 3 or 4 inches longer so I can telescope a silencer inside the handguard a few inches. So, by your answer I guess I'd be getting a 14 or 15 inch.

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                  • #10
                    SigSauerP226
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 876

                    Originally posted by sigstroker
                    I wanted to know what was considered standard because I'll probably get mine 3 or 4 inches longer so I can telescope a silencer inside the handguard a few inches. So, by your answer I guess I'd be getting a 14 or 15 inch.
                    That would be a good way to go, to me it looks more slick with a short barrel and larger diameter muzzle device like a suppressor to have a longer handguard. I’d imagine you still want the handguard back a half inch or so at least from the end of whatever barrel/muzzle device. Just check the internal dimensions of handguard, for example Aero’s enhanced is larger than their ATLAS for muzzle device like suppressors even according to their description. To me though, like mentioned above, a flush fit with a suppressor looks good, too. All personal preference.

                    Also, total irrelevant aside, you on SF too?

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                    • #11
                      CamW
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1649

                      Check out this thread from AR15.com

                      I hear these questions asked a lot and there is too much misinformation and ignorance around so I thought I'd make a thread discussing the basics of rail length compared to barrel length.So, what is r

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57098

                        Originally posted by sigstroker
                        Is there a rule of thumb for the length needed for an AR free float handguard?

                        Like if I intend to use an 11.5" barrel, is there a magic number to add or subtract to the barrel length to determine the length of handguard needed?
                        Needed for what?
                        Needed to not extend too far?
                        Needed to reach the muzzle?
                        You can use a barrel a few inches shorter than the handguard with a linear comp and let the linear comp sit almost flush with the rail as long as your rail and comp are compatible sizes.

                        What's your goal?
                        Randall Rausch

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57098

                          Originally posted by sigstroker
                          I wanted to know what was considered standard because I'll probably get mine 3 or 4 inches longer so I can telescope a silencer inside the handguard a few inches. So, by your answer I guess I'd be getting a 14 or 15 inch.
                          There are only options.
                          There is no standard unless you are limited by a FSB that's mounted on the barrel and do not have a rail with a window for the FSB.
                          Then you need to stay behind the FSB so 7" for carbine.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            sigstroker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 19586

                            Originally posted by SigSauerP226
                            That would be a good way to go, to me it looks more slick with a short barrel and larger diameter muzzle device like a suppressor to have a longer handguard. I’d imagine you still want the handguard back a half inch or so at least from the end of whatever barrel/muzzle device. Just check the internal dimensions of handguard, for example Aero’s enhanced is larger than their ATLAS for muzzle device like suppressors even according to their description. To me though, like mentioned above, a flush fit with a suppressor looks good, too. All personal preference.
                            I would want it to stick out past the handguard by at least a couple inches so I could grab it to unscrew it. I also want about 4 inches of it to be telescoped into the handguard to make it less likely I'd get burned if I'm in a "chaotic" environment and can't pay close attention to the can.

                            Also, total irrelevant aside, you on SF too?
                            Don't know what that is.

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                            • #15
                              trackhazard
                              Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 274

                              Warsport LVOA comes to mind for really having your handguard maxxed out.
                              safe - semi - full semi

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