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  • SVT-40
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2008
    • 12894

    Cheap and accurate AR upper assembly build.

    Last year during some of the "Black Friday" sales I bought a bunch of AR parts from different vendors with the intention of putting together a few uppers. A few weeks ago I finally got around to putting a upper together using some of the discount parts. It went together easily and head spaced perfectly.

    I took it out this morning and shot it for the first time. I was very surprised at how accurate it was.

    I mounted a Trijicon TA33-C 3x30 ACOG with a amber chevron and a BOBRO QD mount on it for this test. I'm going to leave the TA-33 on it.

    I mounted the upper on a generic carbine lower which has a Larue Tactical MBT2S trigger (nice trigger)

    I set up a 12" and a 6" steel plate at 100 meters. I had already bore sighted the upper on my property, so I knew it would be close to being sighted in.

    It took me about 15 rounds shooting at the 12" plate to get what I thought was a pretty good zero using first some surplus M193 5.56 ammo then some ZQI SS109 / M855 "penetrator" ammo.

    I then shot 10 rounds at the 6" plate using the ZQI M855 ammo. The results were pretty startling considering the barrel only cost $79.99.

    Right at 2" . I was shooting prone using a sandbag on top of a ammo can. The Larue trigger helped a lot, and I really like the feel. Not to light, and very crisp.

    All in all I shot about 100 rounds of various brands of ammo and didn't have a single malfunction. Ejection was very positive and the VG6 Gamma brake reduced recoil to virtually nothing.

    So you can build a very accurate and reliable upper at a fraction of the cost using good parts bought on sale, and assembling them yourself.

    I'm probably going to buy a few more of these barrels as spares.

    Here is a list of the parts as well as their costs:

    Upper receiver, stripped PSA "blem" (actually a Aero precision upper) $39.96

    Barrel, Ballistic advantage 16" 5.56 Gov profile mid length gas system 1-7" "modern series" nitride finish from Primary Arms $79.99

    Handguards, Midwest Industries MI-SLH 12.625" Mlok slim from Aim Surplus $127.96

    Muzzle brake, VG6 "Gamma" from Primary Arms $39.99

    Bolt carrier group, "Toolcraft" Carpenter 158 Nitride from PSA $69.99

    Charging handle, PSA $9.99

    Gas block, "KAK" from Aim Surplus $12.00

    Gas tube, Anderson from Primary Arms $8.99

    Forward assist assembly, from PSA $12.95

    Ejection port cover, Strike Industries "Ultimate" EZ install. $16.95


    Total $418.77








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    Originally posted by fiddletown
    What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.
  • #2
    mk2dave
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2021
    • 765

    Ballpark price for optics?

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    • #3
      SVT-40
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2008
      • 12894

      Originally posted by mk2dave
      Ballpark price for optics?
      I bought the ACOG TA-33 used a few years ago here on Calguns. I think it was about $700

      New they are around $1,000
      Poke'm with a stick!


      Originally posted by fiddletown
      What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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      • #4
        beanz2
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 12032

        Good job! So 2" at 100 yd is about 2 MOA.
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        The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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        • #5
          SVT-40
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 12894

          Originally posted by beanz2
          Good job! So 2" at 100 yd is about 2 MOA.
          Extremely good for SS109. I'll have to shoot it at paper to see what it can really do, but I'm very happy with 2 MOA using the ZQI penetrator ammo. I've found it to be pretty accurate in other AR's. It's to bad it's no longer being imported.
          Last edited by SVT-40; 08-16-2022, 7:13 PM.
          Poke'm with a stick!


          Originally posted by fiddletown
          What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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          • #6
            enorbit3
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 2654

            Solid results. Nice build at a sweet price
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            • #7
              Ki6vsm
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2013
              • 2354

              Not bad (at all) for "Government" work.

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              • #8
                BucDan
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 4062

                Out of everything listed, it's all about the barrel for accuracy, yes? I can't imagine anything outside of the barrel of trigger to improve precision.

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                • #9
                  alpha_romeo_XV
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 2953

                  Originally posted by BucDan
                  Out of everything listed, it's all about the barrel for accuracy, yes? I can't imagine anything outside of the barrel of trigger to improve precision.
                  Have you ever had a cheap scope loose zero or not hold zero ? I had a mid quality scope crap out on me after 15 years of shooting it and wondered at first if it was my reloads or barrel but changed scope and performance went back to normal.

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                  • #10
                    SVT-40
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 12894

                    Originally posted by BucDan
                    Out of everything listed, it's all about the barrel for accuracy, yes? I can't imagine anything outside of the barrel of trigger to improve precision.
                    I think a few things beyond the barrel and trigger could effect accuracy. Proper head spacing and a good BCG would be two.

                    When I assembled the upper I "trued" the front of the upper receiver before I installed the barrel. The barrel was very tight when I tried to slip it into the upper, so I heated the upper which allowed the barrel to slip into the upper easier.

                    So there was absolutely no slop between the barrel mating surface and the upper.

                    When tightening the barrel nut I used the proper lube, and torqued the nut to the required torque value three times. Meaning I torqued to 35 FP, then loosened it, then retightened again to 35 FP, then loosened and then once again tightened it the final time to 35 FP.

                    Thats how I was trained to do it at Colt armorers school.

                    Thats been my routine on ever upper I've assembled.
                    Poke'm with a stick!


                    Originally posted by fiddletown
                    What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                    • #11
                      sigstroker
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 19612

                      Originally posted by SVT-40
                      I bought the ACOG TA-33 used a few years ago here on Calguns. I think it was about $700

                      New they are around $1,000
                      $400 upper

                      Thousand dollar scope

                      $300 mount

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                      • #12
                        SVT-40
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 12894

                        Originally posted by sigstroker
                        $400 upper

                        Thousand dollar scope

                        $300 mount

                        Scopes and mounts don't make any barrel or upper more accurate. What they do is maintain consistency.

                        That's why a good scope and mount is so important.

                        Time after time guys complain about how their high dollar uppers / rifles are inaccurate, all the while using cheap mounts and scopes.

                        I'm old.. Buy I know what works and what doesn't. I know where to save $$ and where not to.

                        It took me a while to learn this lesson. So I know where to skimp and where not to.

                        Oh, and the BOBRO mount I got with another ACOG I bought here on Calguns... It was basically free. You can get them new on the net for $130
                        Last edited by SVT-40; 08-17-2022, 4:16 PM.
                        Poke'm with a stick!


                        Originally posted by fiddletown
                        What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                        • #13
                          sigstroker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 19612

                          A TWO ACOG man?

                          Wow.

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                          • #14
                            SVT-40
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 12894

                            Originally posted by sigstroker
                            A TWO ACOG man?

                            Wow.
                            LOL... Actually a five ACOG man...

                            As I said, I know what works and what doesn't.
                            Last edited by SVT-40; 08-17-2022, 4:43 PM.
                            Poke'm with a stick!


                            Originally posted by fiddletown
                            What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19612

                              All the scopes I've bought in a lifetime don't add up to the cost of two ACOGs.

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