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  • Barang
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2013
    • 12352

    Delta Nut question



    when you replace a barrel, do you change the whole assembly (photo above)? if not, which part/s is reusable?
  • #2
    SVT-40
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2008
    • 12894

    It's all reusable if you're installing the same GI style hand guard.
    Poke'm with a stick!


    Originally posted by fiddletown
    What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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    • #3
      FeuerFrei
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2008
      • 7455

      Yep. All re-usable. Just clean off old anti-seize and re-apply new stuff.

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      • #4
        Barang
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2013
        • 12352

        Originally posted by SVT-40
        It's all reusable if you're installing the same GI style hand guard.
        Originally posted by FeuerFrei
        Yep. All re-usable. Just clean off old anti-seize and re-apply new stuff.
        good to know. thank you gents.

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        • #5
          baih777
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2011
          • 5680

          You will need a barrel that has all that installed.already. which means a barrel with the front sight already installed. Or use all your old parts with a new gas block. If you try and use your old front sight. Get the jig to hold the front sight in place to remove the pins.

          If you change to a full floating handguard. To upgrade your barrel.
          None of those.parts.are.used.

          Post a.pic of the barrel you want to use.
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          • #6
            Barang
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2013
            • 12352

            Originally posted by baih777
            You will need a barrel that has all that installed.already. which means a barrel with the front sight already installed. Or use all your old parts with a new gas block. If you try and use your old front sight. Get the jig to hold the front sight in place to remove the pins.
            my 18" barrel came yesterday (been waiting for many months). will be replacing one of my 16" mock dissi rifles to 18".

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57118

              Originally posted by Barang


              when you replace a barrel, do you change the whole assembly (photo above)? if not, which part/s is reusable?
              All of that is usually part of a complete barrel assembly.
              If your new barrel assembly is not complete, you can move some of your old barrel nut parts on to it as needed.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                Barang
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2013
                • 12352

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                All of that is usually part of a complete barrel assembly.
                If your new barrel assembly is not complete, you can move some of your old barrel nut parts on to it as needed.
                i ordered bare barrel so good to know that i can transfer them on to the new barrel. thank you.

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57118

                  Originally posted by Barang
                  i ordered bare barrel so good to know that i can transfer them on to the new barrel. thank you.
                  You will not be able to transfer your front sight base to the bare barrel so hopefully you are planning to use a low profile gas block and a freefloat handguard.
                  That being the case, you won't need to worry about transferring your barrel nut and delta ring parts.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #10
                    bohoki
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 20815

                    if it has the front sight installed it often comes with the nut so you need to add you own spring delta ring and snap ring

                    if you buy a bare barrel you will put your "nut" or free float system on before the gas block

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                    • #11
                      Barang
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 12352

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      You will not be able to transfer your front sight base to the bare barrel so hopefully you are planning to use a low profile gas block and a freefloat handguard.
                      That being the case, you won't need to worry about transferring your barrel nut and delta ring parts.
                      Originally posted by bohoki

                      if you buy a bare barrel you will put your "nut" or free float system on before the gas block
                      okay, i have to slow down and really think about whether i want free float or put everything back on the new barrel. if the latter, i need to send it out for fsb installation. hmmm ...

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                      • #12
                        SVT-40
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 12894

                        Originally posted by Barang
                        okay, i have to slow down and really think about whether i want free float or put everything back on the new barrel. if the latter, i need to send it out for fsb installation. hmmm ...
                        Free floating is a better option. But as you suggested slow down and figure out what you really want to do. There are so many options if you free float. Different hand guards and gas blocks...

                        There really isn't a down side to using a free floating hand guard... Maybe a bit more expensive, but it will leave you with many more options for optics, lights, magnifiers and sling mounts.
                        Poke'm with a stick!


                        Originally posted by fiddletown
                        What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57118

                          Originally posted by SVT-40
                          There really isn't a down side to using a free floating hand guard...
                          There is one other than cost.

                          A freefloat rail mounted front sight is not as reliable as a barrel mounted front sight because the freefloat rail and barrel move around in relation to each other due to both the barrel's thermal expansion drift and sling or hand tension on the handguard.

                          Here is my test showing what 3 lbs of force does:
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            bohoki
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 20815

                            i have 2 uppers i assembled one used a steel gas block that used set screws another is a gas block that was aluminum that clamped on

                            i suggest that the clamp type is easier and i have more confidence in if you are planning on doing it yourself

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                            • #15
                              Barang
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 12352

                              Originally posted by SVT-40
                              Free floating is a better option. But as you suggested slow down and figure out what you really want to do. There are so many options if you free float. Different hand guards and gas blocks...

                              There really isn't a down side to using a free floating hand guard... Maybe a bit more expensive, but it will leave you with many more options for optics, lights, magnifiers and sling mounts.
                              yeah! been checking sights (fixed and flip), handguards and others. i hear my wallet groan!

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              There is one other than cost.

                              A freefloat rail mounted front sight is not as reliable as a barrel mounted front sight because the freefloat rail and barrel move around in relation to each other due to both the barrel's thermal expansion drift and sling or hand tension on the handguard.

                              Here is my test showing what 3 lbs of force does:
                              do handguard and delta assembly make it more stable because of the tension the delta spring make by pushing the handguard against the fsb?

                              Originally posted by bohoki
                              i have 2 uppers i assembled one used a steel gas block that used set screws another is a gas block that was aluminum that clamped on

                              i suggest that the clamp type is easier and i have more confidence in if you are planning on doing it yourself
                              i have gas blocks with set screws and couple of virgin fsb in my spare box. fortunately, the new barrel has dimple opposite of gas hole if i go that route.

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