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  • #16
    Starslinger
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 1486

    Originally posted by HibikiR
    Just to be thorough, do you have other rifles with pistol grips, and if you do then how do you find the grip feel with them?
    This is the only rifle I have with a pistol grip. Others are traditional "hunting" style stocks, including a Saiga.

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    • #17
      HibikiR
      Senior Member
      • May 2014
      • 2417

      Well, try out an AR-15 if you can (range rental, gun shop browsing, or hit up a buddy) and see if this pistol grip feel thing is a fluke or a theme.

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      • #18
        norcal77
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        • Feb 2009
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        If you want to actually hit anything the sporter stock is the way to go. The pistol grip setup I think lends itself to fighting in the field where you are ambushed and don’t have time to shoulder the stock, just point and shoot until you can shoulder the stock.

        I thought the same thing though, all this crap with bullet buttons and fin grips for a config I don’t even care for.
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        • #19
          SVT-40
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 12893

          "Sporter" stocks won't work on most if not all regular AK types with the trigger in its standard location.

          Most of the "sporter" type AK's are SAIGA types which have their triggers moved more to the rear of the receiver where the pistol grip would normally be located.
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          Originally posted by fiddletown
          What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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          • #20
            norcal77
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            • Feb 2009
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            Originally posted by SVT-40
            "Sporter" stocks won't work on most if not all regular AK types with the trigger in its standard location.

            Most of the "sporter" type AK's are SAIGA types which have their triggers moved more to the rear of the receiver where the pistol grip would normally be located.
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            • #21
              Starslinger
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              • Aug 2016
              • 1486

              Interesting. I just assumed that I the pistol grip would be superior since all the modern fighting rifles have it. I assumed that I would like it just fine once I had some practice with it, but I enjoy the feel of my hunting stock rifles much more. I have not tried running a tactical course or shooting around corners, etc. with any rifle.

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              • #22
                Verdha603
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                • Nov 2019
                • 882

                That definitely isn't the reason why pistol grips are preferred.

                Pistol grips on long guns are generally preferred because it induces less strain on the wrist joints when holding the rifle up for extended periods of time.

                For hunters and target shooters who usually shoot supported, or if they shoot unsupported they do so for only brief periods of time, the benefit isn't noticed. When your holding a service weapon up to your shoulder for more than a couple minutes at a time, checking corners and clearing rooms, the strain becomes much more noticeable the longer you hold the rifle up.

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                • #23
                  norcal77
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                  • Feb 2009
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                  Originally posted by Verdha603
                  That definitely isn't the reason why pistol grips are preferred.

                  Pistol grips on long guns are generally preferred because it induces less strain on the wrist joints when holding the rifle up for extended periods of time.

                  For hunters and target shooters who usually shoot supported, or if they shoot unsupported they do so for only brief periods of time, the benefit isn't noticed. When your holding a service weapon up to your shoulder for more than a couple minutes at a time, checking corners and clearing rooms, the strain becomes much more noticeable the longer you hold the rifle up.
                  That makes sense, never had to deal w a situation like that so there you go!
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                  • #24
                    HibikiR
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                    • May 2014
                    • 2417

                    In modern rifles, the pistol grip also removes a pivot point present in traditional rifle stocks. Recoil maintains a straight rearward direction instead of hitting the pivot point and pulling the muzzle upward.

                    It does introduce more height over bore for the sights though, for whatever that's worth.

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                    • #25
                      Starslinger
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 1486

                      Originally posted by Verdha603
                      That definitely isn't the reason why pistol grips are preferred.

                      Pistol grips on long guns are generally preferred because it induces less strain on the wrist joints when holding the rifle up for extended periods of time.

                      For hunters and target shooters who usually shoot supported, or if they shoot unsupported they do so for only brief periods of time, the benefit isn't noticed. When your holding a service weapon up to your shoulder for more than a couple minutes at a time, checking corners and clearing rooms, the strain becomes much more noticeable the longer you hold the rifle up.
                      Yes, that is starting to make sense to me. I rarely shoulder the rifle for more than about twenty seconds at a time. Thanks for your input!

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                      • #26
                        SVT-40
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 12893

                        The different thumb hole stocks were a stopgap method to get around some of the federal restrictions and allow importation.

                        I personally never found any which were comfortable. The Hungarian you DeShawn a hole which made for a thinner "grip" portion. The Romanian's were very thick.

                        The trigger location for all of the different thumb hole stock types were all standard AKM locations.
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                        Originally posted by fiddletown
                        What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                        • #27
                          Angrysnarf
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                          • Oct 2015
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                          Unconverted saiga ftw

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