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  • paddyraid
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2017
    • 568

    gas issues

    one of my ARs is barely ejecting brass. i mean it's BARELY ejecting brass. it falls inches from the rifle. is this undergassed or overgassed?
  • #2
    ReDgUaRd008
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 129

    Does it cycle good? Do you get bolt lock? If so it could be a weak ejector and/or extractor spring.

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    • #3
      m16
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 2527

      Check gas block alignment

      Check for a loose gas key
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      • #4
        beanz2
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 12032

        Undergassed. Eat some beans.
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        • #5
          dousan
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1291

          What ammo?

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          • #6
            paddyraid
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2017
            • 568

            Originally posted by ReDgUaRd008
            Does it cycle good? Do you get bolt lock? If so it could be a weak ejector and/or extractor spring.
            it occasionally stove pipes. it locks back. i'm using a toolcraft NiBo BCG brand new.

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            • #7
              paddyraid
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2017
              • 568

              Originally posted by m16
              Check gas block alignment

              Check for a loose gas key

              I will check those things for sure.

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              • #8
                SanDiego619
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2013
                • 13807

                Does it lock back on an empty mag 100% of the time?

                Is the whole gun new or just the BCG? With the previous BCG it worked fine? If so, then the gas key might be the issue.
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                • #9
                  m16
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2527

                  Originally posted by beanz2
                  Undergassed. Eat some beans.


                  Username fits
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                  • #10
                    paddyraid
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2017
                    • 568

                    Originally posted by SanDiego619
                    Does it lock back on an empty mag 100% of the time?

                    Is the whole gun new or just the BCG? With the previous BCG it worked fine? If so, then the gas key might be the issue.
                    It's brand new.

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                    • #11
                      hermosabeach
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19721

                      if new- try a different brand of ammo... set up cell phone to record the extraction and ejection cycle

                      return to manufacturer with assistance from FFL for warranty work.
                      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                      • #12
                        FeuerFrei
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 7455

                        Originally posted by paddyraid
                        one of my ARs is barely ejecting brass. i mean it's BARELY ejecting brass. it falls inches from the rifle. is this undergassed or overgassed?
                        Weak ammo being used.
                        Over sprung action spring.
                        Buffer weight too heavy.
                        Weak gas at the gas block or gas key.
                        Poor lubrication on a new AR clone.

                        Any of the above can induce malfs.

                        Try NATO powered 556 ammo first and test again.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57171

                          Originally posted by paddyraid
                          It's brand new.
                          Oil it and shoot it with milspec 5.56 ammo, NOT 223.
                          Steel cased Russian ammo and PMC bronze are two specific types of ammo that cause otherwise good guns to malfunction so avoid those with new guns.

                          Don't do ANYTHING until you have several hundred rounds through it.
                          It's going to break in and run better and better as the sharp edges are smoothed out.
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                          • #14
                            jameshenry
                            Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 327

                            Keep it clean and WELL oiled! Hinge open the upper and run the BCG with just your finger and listen/feel for smoothness, add more oil til it's nice and quiet.

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                            • #15
                              paddyraid
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 568

                              Originally posted by FeuerFrei
                              Weak ammo being used.
                              Over sprung action spring.
                              Buffer weight too heavy.
                              Weak gas at the gas block or gas key.
                              Poor lubrication on a new AR clone.

                              Any of the above can induce malfs.

                              Try NATO powered 556 ammo first and test again.
                              ya know, i've wondered if it's the ammo. it's wolf gold 223. i wondered that because i remember shooting it through my X95 and not getting consistent bolt lock back all the time. the X95 is fairly new as well. i'm using a JP polished buffer spring and a KVP 4.3oz buffer. I keep it lubed, but not dripping with lube. i use those same buffers and springs in all my ARs though and none of them eject like this one.

                              i will clean, oil and test with 5.56 NATO first.
                              Last edited by paddyraid; 03-01-2021, 12:02 PM.

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