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  • BigYellowApe
    Banned
    • Feb 2008
    • 792

    Mk12 comments

    I’m a huge fan of the mk12s. The mod 0, 1, and H are some of the coolest looking rifles out there and had there place in years past. I can’t help but wonder why there hasn’t been an update. Even a civilian update. Kac and pri rail systems aside tgere has been major improvements to ARs in the past 20 years. As much as I’ve love A.R.M.S. Products, the arms 22 rings are obsolete. Why not offset sights and a unimount scope setup. If anyone has any examples of mk12s that have the basic components but actual functional improvements I’d like to see them. I’ve spent slot of time behind these setups so I know you can have a very similar look, but I think it’s time we move on from the clones. In spirit, to me the look of the mk12 is the pri or kac rail with an 18” barrel. Thoughts anyone? I’m currently working on one myself
    Last edited by BigYellowApe; 01-20-2021, 11:07 PM.
  • #2
    heavyrecoil
    Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 386

    I have to be honest, I don’t know much about the mk12. Obviously you are an enthusiast :-)— if I am carrying a bigger, heavier gun than an M4 or M16, why do I want the mk12 vs. something like the m110?

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    • #3
      HooYah
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 1573

      Originally posted by BigYellowApe
      I’m a huge fan of the mk12s. The mod 0, 1, and H are some of the coolest looking rifles out there and had there place in years past. I can’t help but wonder why there hasn’t been an update. Even a civilian update. Kac and pri rail systems aside tgere has been major improvements to ARs in the past 20 years. As much as I’ve love A.R.M.S. Products, the arms 22 rings are obsolete. Why not offset sights and a unimount scope setup. If anyone has any examples of mk12s that have the basic components but actual functional improvements I’d like to see them. I’ve spent slot of time behind these setups so I know you can have a very similar look, but I think it’s time we move on from the clones. In spirit, to me the look of the mk12 is the pri or kac rail with an 18” barrel. Thoughts anyone? I’m currently working on one myself
      The Mk12 is an obsolete weapon system and has been replaced as a DMR by the Mk17. SOCOM hasn't issued them for almost 10 years now and the Marine Corps is using the M27 with optics to fill the role their Mk12's had within the rifle company.
      Last edited by HooYah; 01-20-2021, 11:47 PM.

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      • #4
        BigYellowApe
        Banned
        • Feb 2008
        • 792

        Originally posted by HooYah
        The Mk12 is an obsolete weapon system and has been replaced as a DMR by the Mk17. SOCOM hasn't issued them for almost 10 years now and the Marine Corps is using the M27 with optics to fill the role their Mk12's had within the rifle company.

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        • #5
          naz
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2020
          • 3104

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          • #6
            PoofNoEyebrows
            Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 153

            ^^^Yes you can. I ordered mine direct from them. It is heavy but it is a nice platform. I have noticed that you really need to use the heavier bullets for it though to really get the accuracy it's capable of. I load the 77gr smk personally and it loves them.

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            • #7
              BigYellowApe
              Banned
              • Feb 2008
              • 792

              I guess that’s why ARs are so nice. The argument could be made that any quality 18” barreled gun would be fine as a DMR, SPR ect. The military has moved to the piston guns I imagine for the reliability aspect. In general, DI guns are more accurate then piston guns. But accurate enough is more important with great reliability is more important to the soldier in the field. For the civilian shooter I think the mk12 spr type rifles are the perfect gun because they are so versitile.

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              • #8
                DrewTheBrave
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 1472

                Years ago I built an upper that was "inspired" by the Mk12, but built around light components to be easier to lug around for hunting. While I really liked that rifle, I never took it hiking through brush as much as I thought I might, and I still wanted a Mk12 Mod 0 rifle.

                So I started a Mk12 build recently around a Precision Reflex barrel and handguard, but will be skipping the SWAN top rail. With modern cantilevered scope mounts, the top rail isn't necessary, and it saves over half a pound from the forend. It's not "clone correct" but it's good enough for me. I'll post some photos when I have a chance.

                If you want one, just build it out the way you want. I have other rifles that are the "latest & greatest" lightweight materials with LPVOs. But there's just something cool about a classic Mk12 with a simple ~3-9x mildot optic.
                Last edited by DrewTheBrave; 01-21-2021, 1:30 PM.
                WTB: Beretta 92/M9 series (non-railed), Remington 1100 LT-20,

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                • #9
                  BigYellowApe
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 792

                  Originally posted by DrewTheBrave
                  Years ago I built an upper that was "inspired" by the Mk12, but built around light components to be easier to lug around for hunting. While I really liked that rifle, I never took it hiking through brush as much as I thought I might, and I still wanted a Mk12 Mod 0 rifle.

                  So I started a Mk12 build recently around a Precision Reflex barrel and handguard, but will be skipping the SWAN top rail. With modern cantilevered scope mounts, the top rail isn't necessary, and it saves over half a pound from the forend. It's not "clone correct" but it's good enough for me. I'll post some photos when I have a chance.

                  If you want one, just build it out the way you want. I have other rifles that are the "latest & greatest" lightweight materials with LPVOs. But there's just something cool about a classic Mk12 with a classic ~3-9x optic.

                  Well said

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                  • #10
                    NewbieDave
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1277

                    Yeah, you can do a lot better these days with better and lighter components but then it'll just be another accurized AR, can't call it a MK12 Mod anything.



                    If you want to own a MK12 cause you saw it in Lone Survivor or issued it back in the days... then build it correct and be happy. If you just want a DMR rifle, you're wasting your money to start with a MK12 clone as a base.



                    NB

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                    • #11
                      smoothy8500
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3834

                      Yeah, they are pretty cool.

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                      • #12
                        SSOUNN
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 821

                        Love for the Mod 1

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                        • #13
                          DrewTheBrave
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 1472

                          Still in progress, but here's my Mock 12.
                          WTB: Beretta 92/M9 series (non-railed), Remington 1100 LT-20,

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                          • #14
                            BigYellowApe
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 792

                            Mock 12.... lol. That’s awesome

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                            • #15
                              Ki6vsm
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 2351

                              Originally posted by DrewTheBrave
                              Still in progress, but here's my Mock 12.
                              Love that triangular PRI handguard.

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