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  • ZombieKiller
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 2555

    Patch Stuck...

    "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory...."
  • #2
    sonofeugene
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 4630

    Try putting enough lube down the barrel so that it soaks the patch completely.
    Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

    A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

    Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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    • #3
      sonofeugene
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 4630

      And who cleans with a dry patch?
      Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

      A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

      Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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      • #4
        NorCalRefuge
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 685

        Been there, done that with my Mini-14 several times.

        That Otis system really cannot be recommended, unless you have no other option (such as with a Mini-14).

        The issue isn't the dry patch, it's an over-sized patch that's wedged against the Eye-Loop on the cable. If you're gonna use the Otis system, use their expensive patches or be prepared for this to happen often (trust me... )

        You have a few options:



        This video wasn't available the first time this happened to me. I was so frustrated I left the disassembled rifle sit on my workbench for well over a month before trying again!

        If that doesn't work, you might need to burn the patch out as some others have done, or try heating the barrel a little where it's stuck to get it to loosen up.

        I once pulled so hard on one using the included brass puller bar thing, that the bar bent into a U shape!
        Last edited by NorCalRefuge; 01-15-2021, 5:30 PM.

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        • #5
          smoothy8500
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3846

          Ignore the idiots that suggest a wood dowel, wait cuz someone here will suggest it.....Like a wood pencil can "drive out" a stuck patch.

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          • #6
            ZombieKiller
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 2555

            "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory...."

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            • #7
              Usmc0844spare
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2016
              • 1318

              Originally posted by NorCalRefuge
              Been there, done that with my Mini-14 several times.

              That Otis system really cannot be recommended, unless you have no other option (such as with a Mini-14).

              The issue isn't the dry patch, it's an over-sized patch that's wedged against the Eye-Loop on the cable. If you're gonna use the Otis system, use their expensive patches or be prepared for this to happen often (trust me... )

              You have a few options:



              This video wasn't available the first time this happened to me. I was so frustrated I left the disassembled rifle sit on my workbench for well over a month before trying again!

              If that doesn't work, you might need to burn the patch out as some others have done, or try heating the barrel a little where it's stuck to get it to loosen up.

              I once pulled so hard on one using the included brass puller bar thing, that the bar bent into a U shape!
              Hard to take a gun cleaning product company seriously that shows a video of a dude pulling the cable out at an extreme angle, potentially jacking up the crown.

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              • #8
                5.56Geo
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 1889

                Compressed air works well too.
                Live free or die trying!

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                • #9
                  sbo80
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 2265

                  load up a primer-only cartridge and shoot it out?

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                  • #10
                    Garand Hunter
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 2786

                    Never had a problem with a dry patch, across 223-280-308-311-44mag bores, not once. BUT, I have not used a Otis system. Always a cleaning rod, not a bore snake or cable. Then follow up with a lightly oiled patch. Whatever works guys. If I was shooting really crappy ammo I would start off with a patch soaked with Hooppes solvent or CLP.

                    Psalm 1
                    Last edited by Garand Hunter; 01-15-2021, 7:16 PM. Reason: spelling

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                    • #11
                      NorCalRefuge
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 685

                      Originally posted by Usmc0844spare
                      Hard to take a gun cleaning product company seriously that shows a video of a dude pulling the cable out at an extreme angle, potentially jacking up the crown.

                      https://youtu.be/0APH-XNu55I?t=73
                      The Otis system was born out of necessity, for those rifles where getting a rod into the barrel is nearly impossible - such as with the Mini-14 as mentioned, due to its receiver design.

                      The steel cable is coated with a flexible plastic, so it shouldn't cause any harm, and I suspect getting the darn thing unstuck is paramount to worrying about the crown in this situation... but I hear you.

                      Given an option, I'd never use one again. I routinely get mine stuck, since I refuse to purchase Otis' outrageously priced patches.

                      OP, if your cousin has a rifle conducive to a rod... get a rod. Even a cheap rod will be less frustrating.

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57170

                        Do not use a wooden dowel to try to clear anything stuck in a barrel.
                        A broken off dowel makes it much more troublesome to clear the bore.
                        Randall Rausch

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                        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                        • #13
                          mhb285
                          Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 150

                          Squib rod?
                          Originally posted by Synergy
                          I open the door neked with my spice weasel in hand, and say are you here for the gangbang?
                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by bazineta View Post
                          Re. 3, you should not, for any reason, ever, be in SF in the first place.

                          I mean, seriously, you have to burn your shoes afterward. It gets expensive.

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                          • #14
                            Dan_Eastvale
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 10656

                            Let it dry and burn it to a cinder maybe

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                            • #15
                              SanDiego619
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 13635

                              Fire it?
                              Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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