Transferring Out-of-State AR Complete Lower?

[SteelPastor]

If a CA resident wants to purchase a complete AR-15 lower from out-of-state? Best options?

Buyer is CA resident. Seller resides out-of-state but is in CA working (temporary). The lower is currently in CA with the seller.

Can this be done FTF at a CA FFL... DROS'ing lower? Or does it actually need to come from an out-of-state FFL to my CA FFL? Thank you.

[titan]

Can come from PP to a CA FF if they will accept it, then you DROS it. I don’t think there is an issue with the FTF through a CA FFL.

[CWL]

Seller needs to have CA drivers license or other means to show that he is a legal resident.

I would advise both seller & buyer to take a look at the Assault Weapon flowchart to make sure the AR isn't specifically named in appendix B as a banned assault weapon or somehow fall under definition

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

There are also laws seller should have followed when trying to bring an AR15 into CA in the first place.

I don't know the details, but you may be opening a can of worms

[sigstroker]

Nah, the ffl can accept it from anyone. They might charge a transfer fee.

[electric7]

So any out of state seller can personally transport a firearm into CA and bring it to a FFL for ppt?

[M1NM]

Seller needs to have CA drivers license or other means to show that he is a legal resident.

I would advise both seller & buyer to take a look at the Assault Weapon flowchart to make sure the AR isn't specifically named in appendix B as a banned assault weapon or somehow fall under definition

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

There are also laws seller should have followed when trying to bring an AR15 into CA in the first place.

I don't know the details, but you may be opening a can of worms

NO - it's not a PPT. This is an interstate sale and as such is covered by federal law. That states that the gun must go to an FFL in the buyers home state for transfer. The dealer can accept it directly from the private party if he wishes to. He can charge whatever he wants for the service ($25-150) is the norm. Buyer has to fill out and do regular DROS paperwork just like if he bought a gun off the dealer's shelf.
The seller if he brought just the lower has not committed any crime unless it's one banned by name.

So any out of state seller can personally transport a firearm into CA and bring it to a FFL for ppt?

Not a PPT that is between 2 California residents when they both appear at the FFL to complete the paperwork. That is CA law. The gun is basically held in escrow for the buyer and the FFL does not need to log it into his bound book because it never entered his inventory.
Transfer of guns between residents of 2 different states is covered by federal law. It requires that the FFL receive it from the seller and log it into his bound book (just like any other gun in his inventory) He then does the paperwork to transfer it to the new buyer who pays a receiving fee and the DROS (but not the PPT fee).

[Quiet]

NO - it's not a PPT. This is an interstate sale and as such is covered by federal law. That states that the gun must go to an FFL in the buyers home state for transfer. The dealer can accept it directly from the private party if he wishes to. He can charge whatever he wants for the service ($25-150) is the norm. Buyer has to fill out and do regular DROS paperwork just like if he bought a gun off the dealer's shelf.
The seller if he brought just the lower has not committed any crime unless it's one banned by name.



Not a PPT that is between 2 California residents when they both appear at the FFL to complete the paperwork. That is CA law. The gun is basically held in escrow for the buyer and the FFL does not need to log it into his bound book because it never entered his inventory.
Transfer of guns between residents of 2 different states is covered by federal law. It requires that the FFL receive it from the seller and log it into his bound book (just like any other gun in his inventory) He then does the paperwork to transfer it to the new buyer who pays a receiving fee and the DROS (but not the PPT fee).

What he said.