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  • #16
    oak18
    Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 459

    Are you going to continue cycling through elementary questions/rebuttals until one works? Or?

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    • #17
      brianm767
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 2415

      Originally posted by Nestor
      riley defense rifles are widely seen as junk rifles.
      By who? you? This is not what I've seen.

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      • #18
        oak18
        Member
        • Nov 2016
        • 459

        Originally posted by brianm767
        By who? you? This is not what I've seen.

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        • #19
          Zoidberg
          Member
          • Sep 2019
          • 121

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          • #20
            Zoidberg
            Member
            • Sep 2019
            • 121

            So I did manage to fix the rifle. You can read about it up too in my original post, which I updated to include the details, but to sum it up: Riley Defense misaligned the trigger guard when they riveted it which caused the edge to stick out into the magazine well space. Easy fix, but still annoying and should not happen!

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            • #21
              Jarhead
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 2847

              Interesting reading https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tec...a-vs-russia-ak

              What people do not know, however, is that most Kalashnikovs in circulation around the world have nothing to do with Russia or the Soviet Union. In fact, most were made in China, Romania, Hungary, Serbia, Poland, Ethiopia, or one of the 20 other countries that produced different versions of the AK..........

              What happened was that China also transferred technology to Albania, Sudan and Iran. Even today, Iranians make exact copies of Chinese AKs without any original markings on them........

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              • #22
                SVT-40
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2008
                • 12898

                Originally posted by Zoidberg
                So I did manage to fix the rifle. You can read about it up too in my original post, which I updated to include the details, but to sum it up: Riley Defense misaligned the trigger guard when they riveted it which caused the edge to stick out into the magazine well space. Easy fix, but still annoying and should not happen!
                It wasn't the trigger guard that was misaligned, it was the safety stop which fits between receiver and the trigger guard. The safety stop also allows the rear magazine tab to fit properly beneath the magazine release lever whe the magazine is cammed into place. it also provides proper spacing for the magazine.
                Poke'm with a stick!


                Originally posted by fiddletown
                What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                • #23
                  Zoidberg
                  Member
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 121

                  Originally posted by SVT-40
                  It wasn't the trigger guard that was misaligned, it was the safety stop which fits between receiver and the trigger guard. The safety stop also allows the rear magazine tab to fit properly beneath the magazine release lever whe the magazine is cammed into place. it also provides proper spacing for the magazine.
                  You are right. I guess I just considered it part of the trigger guard but it’s a separate part altogether.

                  Has anyone here ever come across this problem before?
                  Last edited by Zoidberg; 12-30-2020, 8:31 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Dan_Eastvale
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 10432

                    Originally posted by Zoidberg
                    Update 12/29/20: So after a little deliberation, I decided I would not to send it back to Riley Defense, and I would try and fix the rifle myself. So for the first problem, all I did was take a little metal file, a little oil, and polish the hammer so the bolt would have less resistance when contacting the hammer. Seemed to smooth it up just fine. For the second problem, I just switched out the safety lever with a classic AKM lever, rather than try bending the Enhanced Safety Lever that the rifle comes with. I prefer the classic look anyway without the shelf for your index finger and the notch to hold the bolt open. Rifle is fine blyat!

                    The third problem was a little bit of a head scratcher at first. I took a closer look at the safety lever, and I wondered why the Magpul magazines would fit, but not the surplus magazines? Usually people have the opposite problem in their rifles, right? And I also wondered why no one else was having this problem. Well I looked closely, and I came to the conclusion that the problem was not with the safety lever, but it was with the trigger guard. It seems that Riley Defense riveted the trigger guard slightly forward, and it was not flush with the cut in the receiver for the magwell, which caused a little piece of metal to stick out slightly. Here, I took some pictures so you can take a closer look, and I included a picture from my other AK so you can see how it should normally look. https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...fvgE4joLQvHy_nOriginal Post, 12/26/20:https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...zdeO3A7nBGdP6J
                    Sloppy manufacturing!

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                    • #25
                      SVT-40
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 12898

                      Originally posted by Zoidberg
                      You are right. I guess I just considered it part of the trigger guard but it’s a separate part altogether.

                      Has anyone here ever come across this problem before?
                      The safety stop is critical for proper magazine fit. It in conjunction with the mag release as well as front trunnion placement will determine if the magazines fit properly.

                      I hope the safety stop on your rifle wasn't placed to get the mag to fit when the front trunnion was improperly placed.

                      If all are not properly aligned mag fit will suffer. You can also get the rear of the mags to hit the receiver support if all is not done correctly.

                      A professionally build gun shouldn't have issues. I've built a bunch of AK's and had to make slight adjustments to get everything to fit properly. I've had one receiver just not work regardless of what I tried....

                      Try a bunch of different magazines to make sure removing metal from the safety stop didn't make the mag fit to loose.



                      Having a loose safety selector is an easy fix. All you do is bend the selector lever so it's tighter against the receiver. Try this with the Riley selector.

                      Smoothing the face of the hammer is a pretty common modification. I usually do this on all of my builds.

                      Good you are fixing issues yourself. AK's are pretty easy to fix. also shooting it will help smooth the action out.
                      Last edited by SVT-40; 12-30-2020, 3:48 PM.
                      Poke'm with a stick!


                      Originally posted by fiddletown
                      What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                      • #26
                        fnlrun
                        Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 486

                        Man thats weird. Mine has about 200 rounds through her and the ONLY problem I've had is that 3rd hole missing
                        Little AR humor for you purists lol

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                        • #27
                          Zoidberg
                          Member
                          • Sep 2019
                          • 121

                          Originally posted by SVT-40
                          The safety stop is critical for proper magazine fit. It in conjunction with the mag release as well as front trunnion placement will determine if the magazines fit properly.

                          I hope the safety stop on your rifle wasn't placed to get the mag to fit when the front trunnion was improperly placed.

                          If all are not properly aligned mag fit will suffer. You can also get the rear of the mags to hit the receiver support if all is not done correctly.

                          A professionally build gun shouldn't have issues. I've built a bunch of AK's and had to make slight adjustments to get everything to fit properly. I've had one receiver just not work regardless of what I tried....

                          Try a bunch of different magazines to make sure removing metal from the safety stop didn't make the mag fit to loose.



                          Having a loose safety selector is an easy fix. All you do is bend the selector lever so it's tighter against the receiver. Try this with the Riley selector.

                          Smoothing the face of the hammer is a pretty common modification. I usually do this on all of my builds.

                          Good you are fixing issues yourself. AK's are pretty easy to fix. also shooting it will help smooth the action out.
                          The mag fit was suffering because of that safety stop sticking out in front of the mag well and preventing the magazine from fully seating in place. I checked my 3 other rifles, and I encourage you to check yours. It shouldn’t be sticking out that far. I filed it down to make it not stick out, I didn’t file it to make it any thinner. Because you are correct that the magazine fit could suffer if I had done that. I have zero magazine fit problems after filing down that piece, and both P-Mag and Steel Yugo and Korean mags are able to seat and lock in just fine.
                          Last edited by Zoidberg; 12-31-2020, 6:21 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Jarhead
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 2847

                            Originally posted by fnlrun
                            Man thats weird. Mine has about 200 rounds through her and the ONLY problem I've had is that 3rd hole missing
                            Little AR humor for you purists lol

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                            • #29
                              fnlrun
                              Member
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 486

                              Wanna run that by me again

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                              • #30
                                Jarhead
                                Veteran Member
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 2847

                                Originally posted by fnlrun
                                Wanna run that by me again

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