Easy to Use Ballistics Program Which Shows Graphs?

[Charles4400]

I used a very simple program on the pc many many years ago which was not too complicated to use and I could easily graph and print different trajectories based on different zeros for a particular type of round. Of course I forgot the name of it!

I know there are very advanced ballistic programs out there which even have different scopes involved, but really just looking for easy to use and to make graphs with multiple zeros to compare.

Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks!

[enorbit3]

Nikon spot on?

[MarikinaMan]

I use Ballistic AE on my phone.

You do have to have input B.C., velocity, scope height over bore, and your turret gradations.

After that, I think it is easy.

It has a large library of loads, projectiles etc to make it easy.

There is this too - http://www.shooterscalculator.com/ba...tory-chart.php

more - https://www.jbmballistics.com/ballis...culators.shtml

[ar15barrels]

I used a very simple program on the pc many many years ago which was not too complicated to use and I could easily graph and print different trajectories based on different zeros for a particular type of round. Of course I forgot the name of it!

I know there are very advanced ballistic programs out there which even have different scopes involved, but really just looking for easy to use and to make graphs with multiple zeros to compare.

Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks!

Graphs are not nearly as useful as trajectory tables like this:

 Tabular trajectory data at Non-Std. Atmosphere
 Gunsite Altitude : 4000 ft.
 Air Density      : 0.064834 lb./ft³
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 Gun / Ammunition : 17hmr
 Bullet Type      : hornady loaded
 Bullet Weight    : 15.5 grains or 1.004 Grams
 Muzzle Velocity  : 2550 fps
 Twist Length     : 11.0 in.  (RH)
 Gyro.  Stability : 1.64
 Crosswind Speed  : 10.0 Mph 
 Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G1) :
 C1_1=0.115@V>0 fps;


 Optimum trajectory information : 
 Optimum sight-in range (X) = 163 Yds. 
 with max. ordinate above LOS at range (M)= 102 Yds.
 and max. point blank range (P)= 186 Yds.
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 Sight-in clicks, 1 click = 4.0 cm/100 m or 1.575 in/100 m
 Height of sight above bore axis = 5.0 cm or 1.969 inch
 Gun is zeroed-in at 100 yds,
 by sighting-in at level firing
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 Range  Velo Time of  Energy   Path   Spin / Wind-  Total  Sight correction  Target
        city  flight            to     dage, Wind    drop   for setting new   lead
                                LOS    of 10.0 Mph             zero range     33 fps
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
·Yards   fps     s    ft.lbs.   in.    in.     MOA     in.   Clicks     MOA     yds ·
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|    0  2550  0.0000    224    -2.0    0.0   -----     0.0   ------    -----    0.00
|   10  2485  0.0118    213    -1.5    0.0   -0.03     0.0    +10.3   +14.13    0.13
|   20  2422  0.0239    202    -1.0   -0.1   -0.33     0.1     +3.6    +5.00    0.26
|   30  2359  0.0365    192    -0.7   -0.2   -0.65     0.3     +1.6    +2.14    0.40
|   40  2297  0.0494    182    -0.4   -0.4   -0.97     0.5     +0.6    +0.87    0.54
|   50  2237  0.0627    172    -0.1   -0.7   -1.27     0.7     +0.2    +0.23    0.69
|   60  2177  0.0764    163    +0.1   -1.0   -1.57     1.1     -0.1    -0.08    0.84
|   70  2118  0.0904    154    +0.2   -1.4   -1.87     1.5     -0.2    -0.21    0.99
M   79  2065  0.1032    147    +0.2   -1.8   -2.12     1.9     -0.2    -0.22    1.13
|   80  2059  0.1047    146    +0.2   -1.8   -2.15     2.0     -0.2    -0.22    1.14
|   90  2002  0.1192    138    +0.2   -2.3   -2.42     2.5     -0.1    -0.14    1.30
X  100  1945  0.1342    130     0.0   -2.8   -2.70     3.2      0.0     0.00    1.47
|  110  1890  0.1498    123    -0.2   -3.5   -3.03     3.9     +0.1    +0.20    1.64
|  120  1836  0.1661    116    -0.5   -4.2   -3.38     4.8     +0.3    +0.45    1.82
|  130  1783  0.1828    109    -1.0   -5.1   -3.75     5.7     +0.5    +0.75    2.00
|  140  1732  0.2001    103    -1.5   -6.0   -4.13     6.8     +0.8    +1.08    2.19
P  146  1701  0.2107    100    -1.9   -6.7   -4.35     7.5     +0.9    +1.29    2.30
|  150  1681  0.2179     97    -2.2   -7.1   -4.50     8.0     +1.0    +1.44    2.38
|  160  1632  0.2361     92    -3.0   -8.2   -4.88     9.3     +1.3    +1.82    2.58
|  170  1584  0.2548     86    -3.9   -9.4   -5.25    10.8     +1.6    +2.23    2.79
|  180  1536  0.2739     81    -5.0  -10.6   -5.62    12.3     +1.9    +2.66    3.00
|  190  1491  0.2934     76    -6.1  -11.9   -5.99    14.0     +2.3    +3.11    3.21
|  200  1447  0.3137     72    -7.5  -13.4   -6.39    15.9     +2.6    +3.60    3.43
|  210  1405  0.3349     68    -9.0  -15.0   -6.81    17.9     +3.0    +4.13    3.66
|  220  1364  0.3566     64   -10.8  -16.7   -7.24    20.2     +3.4    +4.70    3.90
|  230  1326  0.3790     61   -12.7  -18.5   -7.67    22.6     +3.8    +5.29    4.15
|  240  1289  0.4019     57   -14.8  -20.4   -8.11    25.2     +4.3    +5.90    4.40
|  250  1254  0.4255     54   -17.1  -22.4   -8.55    28.1     +4.8    +6.55    4.65
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
M = Peak vs. L.O.S, X = Set Zero, P = Max. Point Blank Range
Elevation above Angle of Site (0.0 deg.)  = 0.0820 deg.

Or a zeroing table like this:

 Tabular trajectory data at Non-Std. Atmosphere
 Gunsite Altitude : 4000 ft.
 Air Density      : 0.064834 lb./ft³
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Gun / Ammunition : 17hmr
 Bullet Type      : hornady loaded
 Bullet Weight    : 15.5 grains or 1.004 Grams
 Muzzle Velocity  : 2550 fps
 Twist Length     : 11.0 in.  (RH)
 Gyro.  Stability : 1.64
 Crosswind Speed  : 10.0 Mph 
 Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G1) :
 C1_1=0.115@V>0 fps;


 Table of Various Zero Ranges - Trajectory Path to LOS in inches
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 Range               25 yd.   50 yd.   75 yd.  100 yd.  125 yd.  150 yd.  175 yd.  200 yd.  225 yd.  250 yd. 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  25 yd. Zero           X       +1.6     +2.7     +3.4     +3.5     +2.9     +1.5     -0.7     -4.1     -8.6   
  50 yd. Zero          -0.8      X       +0.4     +0.2     -0.5     -1.9     -4.1     -7.1    -11.2    -16.5   
  75 yd. Zero          -0.9     -0.2      X       -0.2     -1.1     -2.6     -4.9     -8.0    -12.3    -17.7   
 100 yd. Zero          -0.9     -0.1     +0.2      X       -0.8     -2.3     -4.5     -7.5    -11.8    -17.1   
 125 yd. Zero          -0.7     +0.2     +0.6     +0.6      X       -1.3     -3.4     -6.3    -10.3    -15.6   
 150 yd. Zero          -0.5     +0.6     +1.3     +1.5     +1.1      X       -1.8     -4.5     -8.4    -13.4   
 175 yd. Zero          -0.2     +1.2     +2.1     +2.6     +2.4     +1.6      X       -2.4     -6.0    -10.7   
 200 yd. Zero          +0.1     +1.8     +3.0     +3.8     +3.9     +3.4     +2.1      X       -3.3     -7.7   
 225 yd. Zero          +0.5     +2.5     +4.1     +5.2     +5.7     +5.6     +4.7     +2.9      X       -4.1   
 250 yd. Zero          +0.9     +3.3     +5.3     +6.9     +7.8     +8.0     +7.5     +6.2     +3.7      X     
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 163 yd. PB Zero       -0.3     +0.9     +1.7     +2.0     +1.8     +0.8     -0.9     -3.5     -7.2    -12.1   
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Velocity       fps.  2390.3   2236.6   2088.4   1945.4   1809.4   1681.3   1559.8   1446.5   1345.0   1253.9   
Energy      ft.lbs.   196.6    172.1    150.1    130.2    112.7     97.3     83.7     72.0     62.3     54.1   
Deflection      in.    -0.1     -0.7     -1.6     -2.8     -4.7     -7.1    -10.0    -13.4    -17.6    -22.4   
Correction  MOA/mph  -0.049   -0.127   -0.201   -0.270   -0.356   -0.450   -0.544   -0.639   -0.746   -0.855   
Time            sec   0.030    0.063    0.097    0.134    0.174    0.218    0.264    0.314    0.368    0.425

[Charles4400]

Thanks for the suggestions I'll look at all the above.

Ar15barrels what program is that?
The first table is making my head spin, I'm not even close to that type of proficiency yet.

Second table is more my style (as in I can actually understand it).

Definitely looking for more of an easy zero chart. Something to get an estimate of where I should zero and work out the exact details of my round at the range.

I don't know **** about the atmospheric pressure or what the wind is during the day...I just know whats written on my box of ammo and my guns specs.

[mtenenhaus]

several of the better ballistic software programs as well as devices such as the higher level wind meters will directly access and input local atmospheric pressure and other such related data from your cell phone or computer...it's pretty interesting

once you start using them a bit they become easier to manipulate and understand

maybe download one of the free ones (many companies offer them like Lapua, Hornady etc)....get a handle on it and then move up to a more advanced format as your interest and experience grows.

[ar15barrels]

Ar15barrels what program is that?

Second table is more my style (as in I can actually understand it).

Definitely looking for more of an easy zero chart. Something to get an estimate of where I should zero and work out the exact details of my round at the range.

I used Quicktarget which is included with Quickload to run those simulations.
I just happened to be playing with 17hmr ballistics so that's what I copied and pasted as an example.

If you give me all your specific info, I can run a simulation for you.
I need bullet make/model, velocity and atmospheric conditions like altitude or pressure and temperature.

[RandyD]

OP don't get too reliant upon a ballistic program while shooting. They are fun to use at night at home, but in the field, you are going to have so many other variables, which makes shooting an art. Use a ballistic program to give you data to give you a close to zero at a range, but develop the art of making a correct assessment without a ballistic program.

[Charles4400]

I used Quicktarget which is included with Quickload to run those simulations.
I just happened to be playing with 17hmr ballistics so that's what I copied and pasted as an example.

If you give me all your specific info, I can run a simulation for you.
I need bullet make/model, velocity and atmospheric conditions like altitude or pressure and temperature.

Thanks I appreciate that, but I have a bunch of different calibers and a bunch different types of those calibers at that which I wouldn't want to put on anyone to do the work for me. I'd rather learn how to do it, but these apps seem complicated (to me at least!)

[Charles4400]

OP don't get too reliant upon a ballistic program while shooting. They are fun to use at night at home, but in the field, you are going to have so many other variables, which makes shooting an art. Use a ballistic program to give you data to give you a close to zero at a range, but develop the art of making a correct assessment without a ballistic program.

Yes thats pretty much what I plan on doing. Just looking for a starting point, a general zero guidline so I knownwhatbI should be aiming for. Thats why I'm looking for something simple and not too complex.

I haven't looked at all the suggestions but will do when I get more time.

[ar15barrels]

Thanks I appreciate that, but I have a bunch of different calibers and a bunch different types of those calibers at that which I wouldn't want to put on anyone to do the work for me. I'd rather learn how to do it, but these apps seem complicated (to me at least!)

Quicktarget will let you make graphs with multiple traces for comparative reasons.

As an example:


Quicktarget is NOT simple though as it has ALL the possible variables as inputs that you need to understand to get good results from it.
You won't ever get good (usable) results without actually understanding the process enough to give good input values.

There does not seem to be a limit on how many traces you can add to a graph.
I took my 17hmr simulation and added traces for 5 different velocities here:

[Charles4400]

Quicktarget will let you make graphs with multiple traces for comparative reasons.

As an example:


Quicktarget is NOT simple though as it has ALL the possible variables as inputs that you need to understand to get good results from it.
You won't ever get good (usable) results without actually understanding the process enough to give good input values.

There does not seem to be a limit on how many traces you can add to a graph.
I took my 17hmr simulation and added traces for 5 different velocities here:

Awesome graphs! Thats what I'm looking for, now to enter in all the info I need to get there....

Thanks for the program suggestions!

[ar15barrels]

Awesome graphs! Thats what I'm looking for, now to enter in all the info I need to get there....

Thanks for the program suggestions!

Quicktarget comes with the Quickload bundle.
It's available in the USA exclusively from Neco:

https://www.neconos.com/category/Software-2