Help IDing Muzzle Device

[gfourth]

Hi All,
Can anyone ID this muzzle device and/or the brand logo?

Working on making featureless, pretty sure this would be considered a FH??

Thanks!

[el tardo]

Yes it is considered a flash hider.

[badfish71]

PWS FSC556

[naz]

The logo is for sure Primary Weapon System.

Edit: I think that is the FSC556 muzzle device

[Sparrow Dynamics]

The fed DOJ is not the same as the CA DOJ. "Effectively" and "Perceptibly" are two different things. But that letter could help. The potential good thing (for the buyer) is that PWS does claim it is CA compliant, even though it doesn't look like it.

Here is an article we wrote that may help answer some legal questions you might have. If anyone sees something wrong with it or has something to add, please PM or email us. We do want the info to be accurate and helpful. Thanks!

https://medium.com/@sparrowdynamics/faq-is-this-muzzle-brake-legal-94901d038ddb

[saudadeii]

A few listings for the old style mention flash suppression.

https://www.lwrci.com/PWS-FSC556-Compensator-Old-Style-12X28_p_180.html

The newer style closes off the tines.

[gfourth]

Awesome, thank you all for responding. Either way, it's getting swapped out because it looks similar to a FH and it's not worth the possible trouble...

[dvs762]

as doj told me if it has a large exit hole or any kind of splines or cuts that could in any way disperse the flash then its a flash hider. duckbill ets...they had to be convinced the PSL muzzle break was a break by firing one in the dark and seeing the huge flash...just cuz how it looks..

[fmunk]

A few listings for the old style mention flash suppression.

https://www.lwrci.com/PWS-FSC556-Compensator-Old-Style-12X28_p_180.html

The newer style closes off the tines.

Also, if you read the language of the CA law, it doesn't matter how the manufacturer advertises the device. Law is written very broadly, so much so that if a device is deemed by CADOJ to have any flash suppressing properties, it is not compliant.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=24799160&postcount=8

[naz]

as doj told me if it has a large exit hole or any kind of splines or cuts that could in any way disperse the flash then its a flash hider. duckbill ets...they had to be convinced the PSL muzzle break was a break by firing one in the dark and seeing the huge flash...just cuz how it looks..

[teflondog]

It's definitely a PWS FSC556. My SCAR 16 came with one and it was the loudest and most obnoxious brake I've ever used. People in the lanes next to me constantly complained about the noise and concussion of it. It was even louder than my friend's SCAR 17 with a BattleComp. I swapped it out for a simple A2 birdcage and it made a huge improvement.

[Dvrjon]

The fed DOJ is not the same as the CA DOJ. "Effectively" and "Perceptibly" are two different things. But that letter could help. The potential good thing (for the buyer) is that PWS does claim it is CA compliant, even though it doesn't look like it.

Here is an article we wrote that may help answer some legal questions you might have. If anyone sees something wrong with it or has something to add, please PM or email us. We do want the info to be accurate and helpful. Thanks!

https://medium.com/@sparrowdynamics/...l-94901d038ddb

Your Blog states, in part:

Side note: the DOJ was supposed to update the Assault Weapons Identification Guide in 2017 after SB-880 passed (which banned bullet buttons), but they still have not years later.

You then link back to the 2001 version of the Guide.

Readers should be aware that the blog to which you linked seems to provide definition and background from SB 23 of 1999 and its rule-making process of 2000.

However, as noted by another poster, a new definition of flash suppressor became operative on 7-31-2017.

Regulations were passed as a result of the SB 880 (Bullet Button Assault Weapon Law). The following current definition of "Flash Suppressor" resides at :

(r) attached to the end of the barrel, that is designed, intended, or (that) functions to perceptibly reduce or redirect muzzle flash from the shooter's field of vision. A hybrid device that has either advertised flash suppressing properties or functionally has flash suppressing properties would be deemed a flash suppressor. A device labeled or identified by its manufacturer as a flash hider would be deemed a flash suppressor.

{Underlined indicates retention of previous definition...All else is new.}

The difficulty posed is that issue of, "...functionally has...properties...". Guess who gets to make that determination?

Best.

[naz]

All of the FSC Series muzzle devices have been classified as a non-flash suppressing device by the BATFE, thus removing any restriction from assault weapon ban states or provinces. A copy of this document is available upon request or on our website at www.primaryweapons.com.

[Sparrow Dynamics]

Your Blog states, in part:You then link back to the 2001 version of the Guide.

Readers should be aware that the blog to which you linked seems to provide definition and background from SB 23 of 1999 and its rule-making process of 2000.

However, as noted by another poster, a new definition of flash suppressor became operative on 7-31-2017.

Regulations were passed as a result of the SB 880 (Bullet Button Assault Weapon Law). The following current definition of "Flash Suppressor" resides at :{Underlined indicates retention of previous definition...All else is new.}

The difficulty posed is that issue of, "...functionally has...properties...". Guess who gets to make that determination?

Best.

Thanks for the feedback!

Here is a little clarity that many people get confused on. The new definition of flash suppressor that "became operative on 7-31-2017" was for the purposes of registration after SB880 passed. It actually does not apply to penal code 30515.

These unconstitutional laws and definitions are very difficult to follow.https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...or-010819.pdf?

Here is the interesting part from that PDF pasted here below...
As promulgated, the definitions in 11 CCR 5471 thus apply only to the registration process. The Department is undertaking the current rulemaking proceeding in order to apply the definitions in 11 CCR 5471 beyond the registration process, to the identification of assault weapons generally. The registration period has ended and the terms defined in 11 CCR 5471 still require uniform interpretation for the consistent identification of assault weapons. None of the alternatives considered would be substantially more effective at defining the terms, and none would be less burdensome to affected private persons, considering that having one set of definitions for registration and one set of definitions for ongoing enforcement would cause confusion and the inconsistent identification of assault weapons.

[Dvrjon]

Thanks for the feedback!

Here is a little clarity that many people get confused on. The new definition of flash suppressor that "became operative on 7-31-2017" was for the purposes of registration after SB880 passed. It actually does not apply to penal code 30515.

These unconstitutional laws and definitions are very difficult to follow. I think they like it that way to discourage gun ownership.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...or-010819.pdf?

Here is the interesting part from that PDF pasted here below...
[I]As promulgated, the definitions in 11 CCR 5471 thus apply only to the registration process. The Department is undertaking the current rulemaking proceeding in order to apply the definitions in 11 CCR 5471 beyond the registration process, to the identification of assault weapons generally. The registration period has ended and the terms defined in 11 CCR 5471 still require uniform interpretation for the consistent identification of assault weapons. None of the alternatives considered would be substantially more effective at defining the terms, and none would be less burdensome to affected private persons, considering that having one set of definitions for registration and one set of definitions for ongoing enforcement would cause confusion and the inconsistent identification of assault weapons.

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The definitions of terms in section 5471 of this chapter shall apply to the identification of assault weapons pursuant to Penal Code section 30515.