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  • 82SC
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    • Apr 2012
    • 169

    Geissele Airborne vs Radian Raptor SL

    In case anyone else pondering this choice.

    Both made very well good quality and fit.
    I will say the finish for the Airborne in DDC does get a small minus due to the fact that the shaft and the handles are a different shade. Very subtle but noticeable and of course is clearly stated in their DDC disclaimer. But again it’s a little weird they can’t get the color the same. I can understand the charging handle being a different color then hand guard but why can’t they anodize the shaft and handles together? I’m sure there is a good reason but I digress....

    The one difference when having them side by side is that when pulling the Raptor handles the spring is very firm and has a very positive feeling to it. Very clicky for lack of a better word.

    The Airborne has a much softer spring and feels mushier. Not in a bad way. It’s easier to get the latch to release vs the R but it just feels a little softer and less positive than the R. The throw of the handles also feels longer then the R. Less clicky and less of that positive feel.

    The handles are a few mil wider with the AB. And it has the suppressor ridge (which I’ll prob never get to take advantage of). No difficulty racking either or fingers slipping off. Very well textured. I was considering the R SD-SL but seemed a bit LARP-y for a CA gun and extended back order for Radian Brown version.

    But again I bet both do a fine job and work under very adverse conditions. But just in case someone was pondering this choice like me.

    I’m picking the Raptor even though the Radian Brown doesn’t quite match my DDC MK16 handguard. I like the positive almost too tight and needs to be worn in feel vs the very easy and feels like a well worn shoe that is super comfy but will probably need to be replaced after wearing them a for another 5-6 months feel. (Again to emphasize I don’t think the G AB will wear out or need replacing. It just has that well worn in feel)
    Last edited by 82SC; 08-11-2020, 8:58 AM.
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    Keoroshi
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    • Jul 2020
    • 75

    and a standard mil-spec ch does the same exact thing for a fraction of the price.

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    • #3
      Triple765
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2018
      • 691

      I'll pass on a few fast food meals to afford a good ambi-charging handle.

      Thanks for the comparison, OP.
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      • #4
        enorbit3
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        • Oct 2011
        • 2600

        Thanks for the write up. I got a raptor I my main rifle and it's great. Will prolly get a LT or SL for my AR pistol
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        • #5
          Sniper3142
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          • May 2004
          • 2579

          Originally posted by Keoroshi
          and a standard mil-spec ch does the same exact thing for a fraction of the price.
          Originally posted by ShotgunPreacher
          actually no, it does not compensate for gas blowback as much as the others are specifically designed to
          And a standard charging handle isn't ambidextrous.

          I've actually seen a standard CH break during hard use, and can't see that happening with either a Raptor or Geissele.
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          • #6
            billkohatsu
            Member
            • Jun 2018
            • 245

            Have both and I agree the Radian Raptor provides better tactile feel than the Geissele ACH, especially the latch.

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            • #7
              82SC
              Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 169

              funny how someone always has to point out milspec cheapo no innovation or improved parts do the same as the fancy gucci stuff.

              like replying to a lambo vs porsche vs ferrari thread and saying a honda civic will get you to from point A to point B for 1/10th cost

              PSA upper will shoot a bullet toward a target just like a Knight Arm upper too.

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              • #8
                naz
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                • Jun 2020
                • 3104

                Originally posted by Keoroshi
                and a standard mil-spec ch does the same exact thing for a fraction of the price.
                I felt the same way until I got a Radian LT ch (I have a mil spec aero ch on another upper as well)

                The extra $50 cost of the Radian ch was well worth it for me to get the larger handle and ambi functionality.

                I don’t expect to use my rifle hard enough to break a CH, but maybe if (god forbid) I would need to use my rifle for Hd I would get some gorilla hand strength from stress and adrenaline, and it would be an epic failure if i broke a ch during HD and the extra funds for a better CH would sure seem like a no brainer...

                OP, I looked into SL vs LT and decided on the LT since I’m not able to own a suppressor here in CA, but let us know what you end up with.
                Last edited by naz; 08-13-2020, 5:54 PM.

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                • #9
                  ZombieLivesMatter
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                  • Feb 2016
                  • 2533

                  Originally posted by 82SC
                  funny how someone always has to point out milspec cheapo no innovation or improved parts do the same as the fancy gucci stuff.

                  like replying to a lambo vs porsche vs ferrari thread and saying a honda civic will get you to from point A to point B for 1/10th cost

                  PSA upper will shoot a bullet toward a target just like a Knight Arm upper too.
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                  • #10
                    SmallShark
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1395

                    i like fortis hammer charging handle.

                    take a look

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                    • #11
                      Endless
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                      • Feb 2010
                      • 1881

                      Originally posted by Keoroshi
                      and a standard mil-spec ch does the same exact thing for a fraction of the price.
                      You're exactly right. But since some of us run suppressors now we prefer something a little better, the Noveske labeled Geissele ACH works fine and does better as stated above.. Tried several charging handles and the Geissele worked great.

                      I am not a fan and never have been of the Radian Raptor CH. I gave a couple away that I got in a trade. I have been using the Noveske labeled Geissele ACH and it works fine suppressed (OSS) .

                      Got a couple free so can't complain.

                      Last edited by Endless; 08-13-2020, 8:58 PM.

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                      • #12
                        deephouse
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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 3857

                        Some of us run suppressors now? Must be nice!


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                        • #13
                          beanz2
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                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12028

                          Originally posted by deephouse
                          Some of us run suppressors now? Must be nice!
                          All my cars are running suppressed. My back up generator is running suppressed. Why not my guns?


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