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  • #46
    naz
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2020
    • 3104

    Originally posted by nitehawk117
    M193 is what I usually keep in my loaded AR mags. Handguns in various places are first choice so if I get to needing one of my ARs I'm not going to be too picky about what's in it as long as it goes bang and pushes lead out the end of the barrel.
    Out of curiosity, why do you go for your handgun first vs a rifle or shotgun?

    (If it’s an over penetration concern, a bunch of tests show that 223 rem has lesser over penetration risk than 9mm luger)

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    • #47
      DrjonesUSA
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 4680


      This is very true too.

      I believe this was one of the major driving factors for why LEO / SWAT / etc. started moving to AR15s & ditching the Mp5s.

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      • #48
        jimmykan
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 3073

        Winchester Q3131 55-grain FMJ
        IMI Razor Core 77-grain HPBT-Match
        Nosler Varmageddon 110gr FB Tipped

        Or...

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        • #49
          broadside
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 1504

          Originally posted by ShotgunPreacher
          a light hollow point would be best, but I know a guy who is all about green tips in case an intruder is wearing body armor
          This is just a 2+1 drill you need to practice

          Originally posted by Dano3467
          FmJ Because I'll be reaching for the HG first
          If it goes to the AR it no longer matters about over penetration
          ^^This

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          • #50
            amd64
            Senior Member
            • May 2005
            • 982

            55 gr PSP and FMJ.

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            • #51
              SkyHawk
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Sep 2012
              • 23457

              Originally posted by DrjonesUSA
              What do most LEA's use in their patrol AR's?
              .
              It is all over the place


              I see many running 62 or 64gr bonded soft point from Winchester or Federal. That may have to do with contracts. Others designate 'whatever the range master authorizes' and others designate a wide variety that can be used.
              Last edited by SkyHawk; 08-06-2020, 4:28 PM.
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              • #52
                Usmc0844spare
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 1258

                Originally posted by GunCritic
                I have used Hornady VMax in the 50, 53, and 55 grain and have never been disappointed.
                As my great uncle once said, "Any man worth shootin' is a man worth killin'!"
                I've got some random Hornady lead tip stuff in a 10 round magazine.

                I don't know much about it except that it functions in my rifle and since it's lead tip, which seems "hunting-ish" to me, I figure if it's good enough for shooting a coyote or something, it's good enough for a bad guy.

                Is that hyper velocity stuff a wise idea? I know 223 is not a huge over penetration risk but why test fate with something that's faster than normal.

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                • #53
                  broadside
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 1504

                  Originally posted by kingransom
                  As far as lethality goes, any 55gr 556 round hitting someone in the chest inside your home @ 3200fps is gonna annihilate them! If you need special defense rounds, there's something wrong
                  The issue is that 3200fps and non frangible projectiles. Over penetration is a major issue, even more so if you have loved ones in the house or neighbors you like

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                  • #54
                    elSquid
                    In Memoriam
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 11844

                    Originally posted by DrjonesUSA
                    What do most LEA's use in their patrol AR's?
                    .

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                    • #55
                      pratchett
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 870

                      Hornady Superperformance Match 75GR BTHP

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                      • #56
                        hunterb
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 3794

                        Hornaday TAP 55gr and Winchester Ranger 69gr.
                        Originally posted by johnthomas
                        ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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                        • #57
                          Teachu2
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 833

                          Nosler 55gr lead-free. My HD AR is probably 100 times as likely to be engaging coyotes as humans, so I need to be legal.

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                          • #58
                            Donk310
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1798

                            I'm just keeping 55 grn fmj target ammo. That's more than enough.
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                            • #59
                              kenl
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 1707

                              some info on 5.56x45 penetration

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                              California, the once-great first world state that is now a corrupt third world socialist cesspool.

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                              • #60
                                broadside
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2016
                                • 1504

                                Originally posted by kingransom
                                broadside
                                Originally Posted by kingransom
                                As far as lethality goes, any 55gr 556 round hitting someone in the chest inside your home @ 3200fps is gonna annihilate them! If you need special defense rounds, there's something wrong
                                The issue is that 3200fps and non frangible projectiles. Over penetration is a major issue, even more so if you have loved ones in the house or neighbors you like

                                Totally understand. But as pointed out earlier in the thread, if you need to go to your ar inside your home, over penetration is the least of your concerns.
                                Not when I have family that may be in other parts of the house. Then it's always a concern.

                                I will admit to having a AR on standby but since I own every round that leaves it....

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