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Franklin Armory Binary 10/22 Trigger - Adaptable to Ruger PCC Carbine?

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  • bruss01
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2006
    • 5336

    Franklin Armory Binary 10/22 Trigger - Adaptable to Ruger PCC Carbine?

    Title says it all.

    Similarities in trigger group for the 10/22 and PCC are said to allow for some ability to swap.

    Question is, is the Franklin binary trigger either a drop-in, or adaptable with some modification to the Ruger PCC carbine?
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    ARDude
    Veteran Member
    • May 2006
    • 2723

    I don't know enough about Ruger PCC, but I believe Franklin's binary trigger system has to be fitted to the firearm. Not just drop in.

    Us regular folks in California can't get them here anyway.
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      bruss01
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2006
      • 5336

      Originally posted by ARDude
      I don't know enough about Ruger PCC, but I believe Franklin's binary trigger system has to be fitted to the firearm. Not just drop in.

      Us regular folks in California can't get them here anyway.
      Is there a CA binary trigger ban, or is that more Battered California Gun Owner syndrome talking?

      Seriously, if binaries are banned I must have missed that one. Citation?
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        ARDude
        Veteran Member
        • May 2006
        • 2723

        Originally posted by bruss01
        Is there a CA binary trigger ban, or is that more Battered California Gun Owner syndrome talking?

        Seriously, if binaries are banned I must have missed that one. Citation?
        Franklin's website says it will not sell to California.

        Here is the PC section for California.

        16930. (a) As used in this part, a “multiburst trigger activator” means either of the following:
        (1) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to, built into, or used in conjunction with, a semiautomatic firearm, which allows the firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device.
        (2) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to, built into, or used in conjunction with, a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.
        (b) “Multiburst trigger activator” includes, but is not limited to, any of the following devices:
        (1) A device that uses a spring, piston, or similar mechanism to push back against the recoil of a firearm, thereby moving the firearm in a back-and-forth motion and facilitating the rapid reset and activation of the trigger by a stationary finger. These devices are commonly known as bump stocks, bump fire stocks, or bump fire stock attachments.
        (2) A device placed within the trigger guard of a firearm that uses a spring to push back against the recoil of the firearm causing the finger in the trigger guard to move back and forth and rapidly activate the trigger. These devices are commonly known as burst triggers.
        (3) A mechanical device that activates the trigger of the firearm in rapid succession by turning a crank. These devices are commonly known as trigger cranks, gat cranks, gat triggers, or trigger actuators.
        (4) Any aftermarket trigger or trigger system that, if installed, allows more than one round to be fired with a single depression of the trigger.
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          bruss01
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2006
          • 5336

          Thank you ARDude, I did indeed miss that one.

          Binary triggers aren't called out specifically, and "activates" is kind of a grey term, but I can understand concerns that binaries MAY fall within this definition as decided by a California court, and nobody wants to be the test case in a state where the supermajority legislature can amend it in a heartbeat to call them out more specifically.
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          • #6
            franklinarmory
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Nov 2009
            • 1892

            Originally posted by bruss01
            Thank you ARDude, I did indeed miss that one.

            Binary triggers aren't called out specifically, and "activates" is kind of a grey term, but I can understand concerns that binaries MAY fall within this definition as decided by a California court, and nobody wants to be the test case in a state where the supermajority legislature can amend it in a heartbeat to call them out more specifically.
            There are subtle, yet functional, differences in the 10/22 trigger and the PC9. They are not interchangeable.

            The BFSIII for the Ruger 10/22 trigger does not need to be "fitted." It needs to be assembled. Not everyone will have the aptitude to assemble the trigger, so we recommend a gunsmith installation.

            Lastly, I do not believe that BFSIII is an MBTA because it does not increase the rate of fire of the firearm. However, I have doubts that a jury would understand technical firearms complexities, so we have chosen to avoid the potential conflict.
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