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  • imarangemaster
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3197

    Some random Rumination about Mini-14 (or Ranch Rifle) thoughts

    Now that I have had a chance to fiddle with, tune up and shoot the 581 stainless I got, some thoughts as I settle back into Mini Ownership after being without one for the last year. (I have had an AR15 continuously, though, for the last 40 years or so. Minis, I have had one most of the time during that same time period.)

    1) STOCKS: The Poly stock is half pound lighter than the factory wood, which is something when you tote the Mini in the hills. I am at heart, however, a retro wood and steel guy n(ie: my love for the M1 Carbine, the Mini's little uncle). While I like the shorter length of pull in the early wood and current poly stocks, I prefer wood to poly for home defense where I am not toting it in the hills. maybe some day I'll cut it down to early stock length.

    2) SCOPES: While I plan running factory irons for Home defense since I moved back to my neighborhood house (all 1/2 to 5 acres), for distance shooting (200 or more), a scope is necessary for my 68 year old eyes. I am very happy with the Bushnell Banner 2.5X in Ruger rings. The advantage of the Ruger rings in my experience, is that when uninstalled/re-installed, they return very close to zero

    3) Blued vs Stainless: I like blued rifles better. More traditional. For my Mini, though,I went with stainless because of how I intend to use it: HD hiking, camping, etc.. In my experience, blued high carbon steel tends to be smoother machined than stainless steel, but when properly broken in, the stainless is fine.

    4) Buffers and Such: Running a Wilson 1911 front buffer and a Buffer Tech rear really seem to take the snap and clank out of the Mini and make it smoother shooting. Also nicer on the optics! I did have a Min-30 that I could not even run a 1911 buffer on the front, but that was an exception.

    5) Gas Bushings: I don't mind over gassed, as it will generally cycle anything (including some loads I have that won't cycle my AR15). If it is launching the brass 40 ft, etc. a reduced bushing is a good idea. That is just too over gassed. My 581 does about 12 feet to the 1:30/2:00 o'clock since I got it, so I am not messing with it. Have not bothered to check and see if it has standard bushing or not.

    6) Springs: I like the Ruger factory recoil springs. They work great, but they do have a finite life. Mine in the used Mini I got was about 5/8" shorter than the factory replacement I got. Good indiction it has a lot of rounds since it was made in 2009. I see no need for a Wolff replacement.

    7) Magazines: There is no doubt that Ruger factory are the best. They are built tough, and I find them 100% reliable whether it is a 5, 10, 20, or 30. Yes there are other aftermarket that work: PMI, Masen, Fed Ord, early USAs, etc. Tapco Gen IIs, which are now going the way of the Dodo bird, PMI, Fed Ord, etc. are excellent magazines also. I do use them a lot for general shooting. If you are going to fight a war, go factory Ruger all the way. My favorite magazine of all is the Ruger factory 20. I wish it was a nicely done as Ruger factory 30s with the welded locking lug, but it IMHO is the handiest all around Mini-14 magazine. I keep a Ruger factory 20 in the weapon for HD duty.

    8) JUST FOR THE CALGUNS NEGATIVE CROWD: I Do not think the Mini-14 is a better war fighter than the AR-15 or AKM. I think it does a great job as a home defense carbine, hunting rifle, and Zombie/Troll/Goblin/Felon/Raving insurrectionist whacker. I know AR15s are cheaper, but FN SCAR are more expensive. Using both platforms since the 70s and 80s, I just like shooting the Mini-14 more than my AR. Both will do the same job, but personally I think shooting the Mini is more fun.... I like Dodge pick ups and others like Fords, and yet others (sadly) like Chevys...such is life! I'm a grey haired 68 year old fart, and I like wood and steel...
    Last edited by imarangemaster; 06-14-2020, 7:10 PM.
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    FISHNFRANK
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 1024

    Mine

    I love mine
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    • #3
      pzbike
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 640

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      • #4
        badfish71
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 950

        We get it. You love the mini 14.

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        • #5
          imarangemaster
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 3197

          LOL!!!!

          My Mini in various incarnations...





          Last edited by imarangemaster; 06-14-2020, 9:29 PM.

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          • #6
            sigstroker
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2009
            • 19116

            The Mini-14 should be popular in CA because of the ridiculous laws, and pretty much no other reason. When I bought my Mini they were half the price of an AR-15. An AR-15 that was a pretty crappy gun, imo. Now the mini costs as much as an AR that is substantially improved.

            I replaced it in a couple years when I could afford a much better gun, the AR-180. When I moved to CA I got another Mini.

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            • #7
              pratchett
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 870

              The Mini 14 is a great all-purpose working gun, as-is with a sling. With iron sights, I can chase a can uphill from a good ways off without trying. It handles well, length of pull is great, magazines are plentiful. Anyone who can't make good work out of a pie plate with one at a 100 yards without much effort likely needs shooting lessons. I own ARs, and I like them. But a Mini 14 is a lovely tool in the toolbox.

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              • #8
                jyo
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2008
                • 5303

                Leaning against a bookcase about 8 feet away is my older stainless Mini 14 GB Model fitted with an original Ruger factory stainless folding stock---it' been loaded and ready to go since the very recent rioting and looting---same rifle as used for the same thing back in 1992 Rodney King riots. Runs 100% and even the wife likes to shoot it and knows how to operate it...

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                • #9
                  smle-man
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10551

                  I painted my SS series 185 with BBQ paint and baked it in the oven for an hour to cure the paint. It ia a fairly durable finish and easily renewed. The flat black finish is a lot better than the shiny SS.

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                  • #10
                    Garand Hunter
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 2761

                    Love my 186 series Mini 30 Ranch rifle. Tight groups and takes California deer easily as LONG as its under 200 yards, just like a 30-30 outa gas after 200 yards, didn't mater what brand of 7.62X39 I put in it. But, my # 4 daughter informed me it now belongs to her a few years ago.

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                    • #11
                      Garandimal
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 2145

                      The Three(3) things that I had issue w/ the 580 series Mini-14 were:

                      - Stock length.
                      - Sling width.
                      - Rear aperture sight adjustment.

                      So I fixed them.


                      One handy carbine - w/ the Ten(10) round factory mags.




                      GR


                      (I think, therefore I am armed.)


                      -- Lt. Col. Dave Grossman --

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                      • #12
                        67Cuda
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 1683

                        Originally posted by badfish71
                        We get it. You love the mini 14.
                        The Adult "Mini 14".

                        Originally posted by ivanimal
                        People that call other member stupid get time off.
                        So much for being honest.

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                        • #13
                          Garandimal
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 2145

                          Originally posted by 67Cuda
                          The Adult "Mini 14".
                          ...and his Dad.





                          GR


                          (I think, therefore I am armed.)


                          -- Lt. Col. Dave Grossman --

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                          • #14
                            Verdha603
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2019
                            • 882

                            Definitely agree the Mini-14 is a handy rifle, especially considering it still manages to fly under the radar of the various state assault weapon bans and somehow managing to convince Fudds out there it's a "sporting ranch rifle" while the AR platforms get viewed negatively in comparison.

                            I ended up buying a 183 series that I later passed off to my father since he still lives in California, so he would be able to put it to better use than I could, but I can't deny for a 200 yard and in carbine, it works well, it doesn't scare uninitiated/ignorant new shooters compared to handing them an AR rifle at the range, and I'll admit I have an admiration for the M1 Garand/M1A/Mini-14 style rifles; they look nice, the iron sights are perfect IMO, and they function pretty reliably (even if I have to use an Accu-Strut on any Pre-580 rifles).

                            Now if only someone could make a copy of the French Mosqueton AMD Mini-14 stocks so I could buy another one and confuse folks at the range on whether I'm shooting a Mini-14 or an M1 carbine...

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                            • #15
                              theduracellbigd
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 1134

                              I maybe missed it, but do not forget the ergonomics of the traditional stock. For me the AR15 pistol grip is beneficial for hip shooting, but I find it a little less desirable when aiming. That's me, may be different for others, but I do not believe I am alone in my sentiment.

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