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  • Sam .223
    • Mar 2008
    • 1575

    new scope for my 6.5 G

    Vortex Crossfire II 4-16x50 AO Riflescope Dead-Hold BDC MOA Reticle or
    Trijicon Accupower Red Illuminated MOA Dot 4-16x50 1900020
    which would you choose and why?
    5.56: reach out and touch someone.
    458 SOCOM: reach out and knock someone down.
  • #2
    fmunk
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 3896

    Neither. I would choose something with first focal plane. But, if limited to these two, I'd pick the Trijicon. When it comes to glass, you get what you pay. Buy once, cry once.


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    • #3
      FeuerFrei
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2008
      • 7455

      Originally posted by Sam .223
      Vortex Crossfire II 4-16x50 AO Riflescope Dead-Hold BDC MOA Reticle or
      Trijicon Accupower Red Illuminated MOA Dot 4-16x50 1900020
      which would you choose and why?
      Match the scope to the rifle's intended uses IMO.

      Have you used anything like these scopes before?

      I'm a believer in try before you buy. If that's not possible then I make sure there's a generous/flexible refund policy.

      We can recommend different/same models all day long, but you're the shooter that needs to see through the thing.
      Pick one and try it out. What's good for me isn't necessarily good for you.

      I run Trijicon ACOG's on 3 of my AR's so I say go Trijicon.

      Good luck.

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      • #4
        NapalmCheese
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2011
        • 5938

        Originally posted by Sam .223
        Vortex Crossfire II 4-16x50 AO Riflescope Dead-Hold BDC MOA Reticle or
        Trijicon Accupower Red Illuminated MOA Dot 4-16x50 1900020
        which would you choose and why?
        Neither.
        1. I don't want a BDC.
        2. I don't want an illuminated reticle.
        3. 4-16 power is not a useful magnification range for 6.5G IMO.
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        • #5
          Ki6vsm
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 2351

          As Fire Away said, "Match the scope to the rifle's intended uses IMO". Saying it's going on a Grendel tells us next to nothing about the rifle or how you intend to use it. Is it for hunting? Purely a long-range toy?

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          • #6
            Sam .223
            • Mar 2008
            • 1575

            will be used for both hunting and target plinking out to 800 yds, I have a 4-16x50 scope on my 30-06 that I hunt with and I like that magnification so I thought I'd go with that on the Grendel.
            5.56: reach out and touch someone.
            458 SOCOM: reach out and knock someone down.

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            • #7
              DrewTheBrave
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 1472

              I would go Trijicon Accupower. I have an SWFA 3-15x second final plane scope on my 18" Grendel and the magnification range suits the rifle just fine - so 4-16x ought to be great.

              First focal plane scopes are all the rage these days, but a quality SFP scope can still be really capable if you're aware of its limitations.

              While I don't have experience with those optics, I can at least strongly recommend a reticle in MIL or MOA over a Bullet Drop Compensation reticle as they're both much more versatile than a BDC, especially with 6.5 Grendel since most BDC are designed for .223 or .308.

              Here's a good article that can educate about the most basic of choices and help you decide between MIL or MOA: https://www.snipershide.com/precisio...s-moa-vs-iphy/

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              Last edited by DrewTheBrave; 05-28-2020, 6:55 AM.
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              • #8
                Ki6vsm
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 2351

                Originally posted by NapalmCheese
                4-16 power is not a useful magnification range for 6.5G IMO.
                This seems like a strange thing to say without further explanation. 4x would be too low for you? 16x too high for you?

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                • #9
                  NapalmCheese
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 5938

                  Originally posted by Ki6vsm
                  This seems like a strange thing to say without further explanation. 4x would be too low for you? 16x too high for you?
                  My answer had about as much context as the OP’s original question (little to none).

                  But since you’re looking for clarification: I view the 6.5 Grendel as a low recoil close/not so close (0-300 yard) small-medium/small game lightweight hunting rifle. That is, I’d feel comfortable using it on CA sized deer out to 300 yards with lead bullets from a super lightweight bolt action rifle.

                  As such, I’d want a small, compact, lightweight scope and certainly don’t need any magnification greater than 6x and would prefer magnification down to 1x.

                  What if the OP wants to shoot targets out to 1000 yards? Then 16x would be more appropriate, but they aren’t a serious long range shooter at that point since if they were they’d pick a different cartridge that carries more velocity down range and is therefore less effected by the wind (like 6.5CM). So, if you’re not going to be serious about the game and are only interested in occasionally lobbing low velocity sleek bullets at 1000 yards, why bother with a heavy and expensive 16x scope? I guess if there’s like a 6.5G long range league or something...

                  As for the 4x low end magnification? Since I mostly hunt and don’t really care about target shooting that’s too much low end magnification for me, I’d prefer something that goes down to 2x or even less.

                  At any rate, for any of the shooting I do 2.5-10 or 3-9x magnifications work well enough for me from 0-500 yards with .308 class cartridges of deer sized game, and 1.5-4x is fine on lightweight guns.

                  I am for the most part a point blank hunter. My current deer rifle has a point blank range of 300 yards. Grendel is closer to 200 yards. No need for high magnification.
                  Last edited by NapalmCheese; 05-28-2020, 11:36 AM.
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                  • #10
                    Ki6vsm
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 2351

                    LOL fair enough. Thanks NapalmCheese. All that makes a lot of sense to me. I don't hunt, but I am sure you're spot-on about the Grendel from a hunting perspective.

                    For the long range target shooting activities, that'll depend to a large degree on how long the OP's barrel is. The longer the better of course. We have no clue what the OP's barrel is.

                    FWIW, I have a Grendel upper that I built as low-investment longer range toy. I wanted a "1000 yd" upper. It's got a 20-inch Ballistic Advantage barrel. For target use I just run an SWFA 10x MOA-Quad scope. I consider 10x fine for reaching out to 1000 yds. Proved it the first day I used it. I could hold the scope's .2 MOA center dot in the middle of an 18-inch square plate out at 1000 yds. If I can do that, the plate's hit-able. And I actually did hit it on my second try. But it was morning and the air very still. I'll admit, the Grendel wouldn't be as forgiving in a breeze as bigger, better rounds. But it shoots out pretty far for a pinche little AR-15.

                    More recently though, I decided the make my Grendel upper a little more versatile, so I got another QD mount and added Redfield Revolution 3-9x 40mm scope. I don't hunt, but if that turns out ever to be a necessity, the Redfield will be better for that.

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                    Last edited by Ki6vsm; 05-28-2020, 1:19 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Thoughts
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 523

                      Although a lot of people like the Vortex line, I had an instructor who didn't trust them due to the number of problems he had seen with them. I would stick with something else, personally, having watched two Vortex scopes fail in classes myself.

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                      • #12
                        kenl
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 1705

                        Our Grendel wears a Trijicon accupower 3-9. It has the green illuminated MOA reticle. Have used it out to 300 yrds so far. Very nice scope imho.
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                        • #13
                          jtv3062
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2741

                          Originally posted by Sam .223
                          Vortex Crossfire II 4-16x50 AO Riflescope Dead-Hold BDC MOA Reticle or
                          Trijicon Accupower Red Illuminated MOA Dot 4-16x50 1900020
                          which would you choose and why?
                          Isnt the crossfire the bottom of barrel scope for vortex? My buddy has one and returned it. It was such garbage
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                          • #14
                            Jimi Jah
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 17803

                            My 20" Grendel has the Crossfire 4x16. If I get the cash it will be replaced with a Leupold VX-3.

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                            • #15
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19112

                              The Sonora is even lower I think.

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