Best Quality AR for under $500?

[Quickdraw559]

[The War Wagon]

Sorry for bumping an 2 week old thread, but a sub $500 can be a very reliable and durable rifle.

I did these bad, very bad things approx 5 years ago on a budget PSA kit.
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...ight=gregchico

Interesting test. I will agree with Scott's post, in addition to your tests.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=16996030&postcount=6

[Mr. Blue]

[Mr. Blue]

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Ruger AR-556 all day! Its much easier to take the delta ring off too. Go Ruger AR-556 or just spend the money and get a DD.

[Mr. Blue]

[Mr. Blue]

Interesting test. I will agree with Scott's post, in addition to your tests.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...30&postcount=6

I looked at your post and was very impressed. Thanks for sharing. With your given experience in the subject of malfunction from circumstance, are there any particular causes for a malfunction an AR? That you came Across after dragging the rifle?

[W.R.Buchanan]

So this one got everyone worked up, didn't it?

This thread kind of relates to other threads about other guns which deemed inferior by AR experts.

Where I'm at, is that if you spent $3000 on a gun that you can't shoot any better than a $500 gun, you really can't tell the difference and you wasted your money and should have sent it to me as I would not waste it. I'd pay my rent.

Now if you just like nice things like most of us do, then fine. Knock yourself out, spend whatever you want. But don't go knocking the inexpensive gun that probably runs just as good as yours, just because it cost less. It is not inferior simply because it will do what yours will and probably just as well in the right hands.

I have found during my brief time on this planet and when Intellectually Enhanced by Psychotropic Drugs in my youth, that things are not always what they appear to be. Took a slight bump to wake me up to that fact.

The job of every person is to find their way thru life to the best of their abilities. That means being able to sort thru the BS in the world and find truth. This is so important that I rate it right below Reproducing, which I bypassed this time thru.

One of my Axioms of existence is in my signature which states that," It is not how well you do what you know how to do, It is how well you do what you "Don't" know how to do!

This comes down to learning as much about as many things as you can possibly absorb in one lifetime, and being able to use them to enhance your survival. IE: so you can spot BS!

IE: Like if you really understand guns, and things like metallurgy and machining and engineering design, then you should be able to tell if someone who is selling some wonder weapon is blowing smoke up your arse, or if it is the real thing? Inquiring minds want to know?

It is up to you to work at this every day because your very survival depends on it. Will you believe the BS or can you see the truth. Only if you actually KNOW WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT!!! and that takes learning.

Is an HK 416 worth $3000? cuz the SA version is costing that nowadays! the Military is spending more for their guns. Well it has got HK engraved on the side and it is a piston gun,,, but functionally,,, is it really any better than a $500 DI Ruger AR 5.56? Only if you are going to war and somebody else paid for it! It still has to be maintained and you can screw up a gun easier cleaning it than you can by shooting it, so beware. Do you need the extra "supposed" Reliability that the gas piston provides? maybe? Like if you are in Afghanistan and you are eating dirt everyday and you can't clean the gun every night. If you live in Reseda not so much?

As far as your $3000 rifle, If you don't have a use for it, that will pay for it, then you should have bought the Corvette.

If you can't drive the Corvette either,,, you can give that to me too!

Randy

[The War Wagon]

I think most hobbyist shooters, would have a hard time distinguishing between a $1,500 rifle, and a $3,000 rifle, but the difference between a $1,500 rifle, and a $500 rifle, is substantial. A difference that EVEN the hobbyist grade shooter, could identify.

[crufflers]

I could tell for sure... because I know how much everything costs. You can spend $500 on a handguard and a trigger. You could spend another $500 on a gucci bcg and barrel. There’s $1000 and you don’t even have receivers or sights. Does all that stuff make a huge difference??? NO.

[Rifle ronin]

Could you tell between the 1500 and 500 if there were no roll marks or other engravings?

[crufflers]

Could you tell between the 1500 and 500 if there were no roll marks or other engravings?

Triggers and hand guards and stocks... yeah. Some barrels, sure but there are expensive barrels that aren’t spectacularly accurate too. When it is an AR you have to use “hobby-grade”, “milspec”, “enhanced”, etc... to really drive the feels home... the feels fight off buyers remorse. I wouldn’t mind having few a tier one uppers as long as they are so enhanced that they are proprietary and so expensive that they cannot be fixed with milspec parts... but haven’t you heard? Those are so tough they won’t break ever.

[Master_Prestige]

So this one got everyone worked up, didn't it?

This thread kind of relates to other threads about other guns which deemed inferior by AR experts.

Where I'm at, is that if you spent $3000 on a gun that you can't shoot any better than a $500 gun, you really can't tell the difference and you wasted your money and should have sent it to me as I would not waste it. I'd pay my rent.

Now if you just like nice things like most of us do, then fine. Knock yourself out, spend whatever you want. But don't go knocking the inexpensive gun that probably runs just as good as yours, just because it cost less. It is not inferior simply because it will do what yours will and probably just as well in the right hands.

I have found during my brief time on this planet and when Intellectually Enhanced by Psychotropic Drugs in my youth, that things are not always what they appear to be. Took a slight bump to wake me up to that fact.

The job of every person is to find their way thru life to the best of their abilities. That means being able to sort thru the BS in the world and find truth. This is so important that I rate it right below Reproducing, which I bypassed this time thru.

One of my Axioms of existence is in my signature which states that," It is not how well you do what you know how to do, It is how well you do what you "Don't" know how to do!

This comes down to learning as much about as many things as you can possibly absorb in one lifetime, and being able to use them to enhance your survival. IE: so you can spot BS!

IE: Like if you really understand guns, and things like metallurgy and machining and engineering design, then you should be able to tell if someone who is selling some wonder weapon is blowing smoke up your arse, or if it is the real thing? Inquiring minds want to know?

It is up to you to work at this every day because your very survival depends on it. Will you believe the BS or can you see the truth. Only if you actually KNOW WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT!!! and that takes learning.

Is an HK 416 worth $3000? cuz the SA version is costing that nowadays! the Military is spending more for their guns. Well it has got HK engraved on the side and it is a piston gun,,, but functionally,,, is it really any better than a $500 DI Ruger AR 5.56? Only if you are going to war and somebody else paid for it! It still has to be maintained and you can screw up a gun easier cleaning it than you can by shooting it, so beware. Do you need the extra "supposed" Reliability that the gas piston provides? maybe? Like if you are in Afghanistan and you are eating dirt everyday and you can't clean the gun every night. If you live in Reseda not so much?

As far as your $3000 rifle, If you don't have a use for it, that will pay for it, then you should have bought the Corvette.

If you can't drive the Corvette either,,, you can give that to me too!

Randy

[Master_Prestige]

[crufflers]

[oc16]

I would also double down on windham I think I paid 870 for mine several years ago. Honestly, its one of the nicest Ar 15 on the market. I still remember when I walked in the shop with the intent to buy a colt but the 1200 price tag was too steep for me. so I purchased the Windham that was right next to it and never regretted it.