Optics

[Dirtbiker]

I asked this question in optics but not a lot of activity there.

I'm putting together a 9mm AR so this is definately a CQB type of carbine. Would the experts out there recommend a EO-Tech or an Aimpoint? Also which model of either.

I looking at the Aimpoint CS right now, thoughts?

I'm a total newbie when it comes to optics so please be gentle.

[1811]

For me, EOTECH reticles are easier to pick up with the 65/1 MOA.

[ETD1010]

They're both awesome optics. I personally like the eotech, but I'm not saying anything bad about the aimpoint. I just like the larger circle the eotech gives. Your choice will most likely be whatever you like better, not which one is better.

[brando]

There should be a sticky for the "Aimpoint vs EOTech" subject - we cover this one weekly.

[Black Majik]

Yup, and each week... I still say Aimpoint.

[cmace22]

If the EO had the battery life of the aimpoint It woiuld get my vote. I like the EO better, but I was sold on the 50,000 hours of batter life of the aimpoint compared to the 600-1100 of the EO.

[Dirtbiker]

I understand the basics of each.

OK How about this question. Any thought for or against the Aimpoint CS?

Also where is the best place to research the differences between EOtech models?

[cmace22]

I understand the basics of each.

OK How about this question. Any thought for or against the Aimpoint CS?

Also where is the best place to research the differences between EOtech models?

It might be easier if you tell us what you are going to use it for and what your needs are.

[Dirtbiker]

It might be easier if you tell us what you are going to use it for and what your needs are.

I did... Top post.

9mm AR-15, something to run and gun with. Just for fun.

[Jonathan Doe]

I have an EOTech 512 on my M4. I like Eotech because it has a bigger viewing area which allows me to use iron sights when I have to. Also, I like 512, because I can use regular AA batteries.

[brando]

This really belongs in the Optics Forum.

In a nutshell, the Aimpoints still own the EOTech's on battery life and overall durability. But the EOTech has always had a faster, more versatile reticle (ie quicker to acquire 65MOA ring and 1MOA dot allows longer range engagements). That's a bit of a moot point now that Aimpoint has released optics with smaller dots.

I used the Aimpoint 1000s back in the 90s and later the CompMLs, switching to EOTech around 2001 and felt a noticeable improvement in my shooting performance because of it. I always felt the controls on the EOTech were clumsy and battery life was lame, but it just required staying on top of things (ie don't roll outside of the wire without a fresh set of batteries). Around 2005 I had a batch of EOTech's turn off mid-recoil which made for a real good training aid for switching to BUIS on the fly, but overall it made me lose trust in the optic. That's when I switched to the newer Aimpoints, particularly the Micro T-1 and that's where I think the king is right now overall. Still, I would prefer one with an EOTech reticle.

So it's really a personal preference issue at this point.

[B Strong]

Yup, and each week... I still say Aimpoint.

I'm with you.

[aplinker]

Aimpoint Micro>Aimpoint>EOTech

New transverse, longer battery life EOs could start to close the gap.

[Justintoxicated]

600-1000 hours isn't enough battery life for a CR123? That should last me for a very very long time...Plus my Stock holds like 18 CR123s...

I went with the eotech, but mostly because I THINK I will prefer the holosight and wider sight area, battery life does not matter much for my use, if the battery dies I will change it out for another one... That and a few people in Iraq said they prefer it over their aimpoint despite the battery life.

[aplinker]

600-1000 hours isn't enough battery life for a CR123? That should last me for a very very long time...Plus my Stock holds like 18 CR123s...

I went with the eotech, but mostly because I THINK I will prefer the holosight and wider sight area, battery life does not matter much for my use, if the battery dies I will change it out for another one... That and a few people in Iraq said they prefer it over their aimpoint despite the battery life.

I think you missed the part about EOTechs failing with regularity in Iraq.

The advantage of exceptionally long battery life is that you can leave the optic on - for a few years before it goes dead. I've just been replacing them all annually.