featureless questions

[swilson]

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, and if these are stupid questions.

I'm looking to build a featureless AR-15 from a stripped lower. I'm trying to find a complete upper and most of what I can find come with flash suppressors which wouldn't comply with featureless. So can I just remove the flash suppressor and install a thread protector and be good to go?

I'm just trying to comply with the law. Besides the flash suppressor removal, if that complies, the build plan is to use an A2 stock, regular mag release button, Monsterman grip, and 16in upper with no other features. Does that all comply with the law? A bayonet lug doesn't matter does it? Most of the uppers I see in my price range seem to have them.

Thanks for entertaining my dumb questions that have probably been asked a million times prior.

[LongLiveTheRepublic]

That's fine, bayonet lug is also fine.

[Sailormilan2]

I've built a couple exactly the way you are wanting to do, and it's fine.

[yakdout]

[yakdout]

[93chipper]

I’d do the juggernaut way easier and can use all features

[CJJohn]

Sounds like you are on the right path. I went featureless with a Thorsden stock. Ugly as all get out, but my AR is not for looks and it functions as it should....FOR ME. I know training will correct it, but under stress I don't want to deal with extra steps to do a mag change. YMMV.....

[Angrysnarf]

I assembled a fightlite scr

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[Sparrow Dynamics]

If the Monsterman goes well with the A2 stock, but if you want something more modern looking and allow you to grasp it with your thumb, you can fix an adjustable stock and use our grip. Flash hiders are really easy to remove, and you could just screw on a thread protector or a muzzle brake.

[LateBraking]

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, and if these are stupid questions.

You're in the right forum. CA laws are convoluted and stupid. Your questions are not.

So can I just remove the flash suppressor and install a thread protector and be good to go?

Yes, assuming your barrel has a minimum length of at least 16" and the rest of your rifle is featureless, which you touched on below:

the build plan is to use an A2 stock, regular mag release button, Monsterman grip, and 16in upper with no other features. Does that all comply with the law? A bayonet lug doesn't matter does it? Most of the uppers I see in my price range seem to have them.

You're 100% correct. Good choices. There's other parts you can get and people on this forum can and literally have sat around and argued it for days on end. Your plan is great because you've covered your bases legally while also keeping it simple and to the point. Not to say anyone else is wrong, but since you've already figured out a path for yourself that works, just stick to it rather than confusing yourself or complicating things.

[ohsmily]

I’d do the juggernaut way easier and can use all features

Except a magazine over 10 rounds and a standard mag release. Mag locks are fine for bench shooters and for looks. Worthless for competition and practical rifle training. Good luck clearing a type 3 malfunction under time pressure with a mag lock or being able to do a emergency or tactical reload in a reasonable time.

[Rifle ronin]

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, and if these are stupid questions.

I'm looking to build a featureless AR-15 from a stripped lower. I'm trying to find a complete upper and most of what I can find come with flash suppressors which wouldn't comply with featureless. So can I just remove the flash suppressor and install a thread protector and be good to go?

I'm just trying to comply with the law. Besides the flash suppressor removal, if that complies, the build plan is to use an A2 stock, regular mag release button, Monsterman grip, and 16in upper with no other features. Does that all comply with the law? A bayonet lug doesn't matter does it? Most of the uppers I see in my price range seem to have them.

Thanks for entertaining my dumb questions that have probably been asked a million times prior.

Taking off the flash hider is easy so don't worry about looking for uppers without them. Just buy what you want(to keep it simple, 16 inches or more length on the barrel) then put on a thread protector (Amazon) and decide later if you want a brake or comp. Unless that is the look you are going for, you could still use a different stock and pin it so it is not adjustable. Sparrow dynamics has a good CA legal grip and vids on how to pin some adjustable stocks. Please give it a view. Maybe post some pics of what you want and the calgunners can help you.

Featureless rifle equipment cost me about $100.

$40 for featureless grip
$40 for mapul moe stock / $30 for non adjustable
$5 for thread protector

$85 +tax comes close to $100

[ar15barrels]

Except a magazine over 10 rounds and a standard mag release. Mag locks are fine for bench shooters and for looks. Worthless for competition and practical rifle training. Good luck clearing a type 3 malfunction under time pressure with a mag lock or being able to do a emergency or tactical reload in a reasonable time.

Counting down for the hyperswitch guy to arrive any second and post his videos and links...

[Rifle ronin]

Counting down for the hyperswitch guy to arrive any second and post his videos and links...

Let's get an operator's operator to challenge him, put him in his place and quiet him down! J/K....maybe.

[ohsmily]

Counting down for the hyperswitch guy to arrive any second and post his videos and links...

Legally speaking, I am leery of the hyperswitch and other mag locks that limit the travel of the action when the rear pin is pulled. Remember that the hallmark of the new law is "disassembly of the action" required for removal of the magazine. It is not "unfire-able" as the condition for removal of the magazine. While the law doesn't specify, and I could certainly articulate as an expert witness that the firearm is "disassembled" with the receiver cracked only 3/4", I would have much better footing on the stand to articulate that the rifle is CLEARLY and INDISPUTABLY disassembled when the receivers are in such a position that the rifle can be field stripped or can be opened to that point (i.e. the bolt carrier group and charging handle can be removed from the rear of the upper receiver). I'm not saying Juggernaut and Hyperswitch are not compliant; but it is my position that they are not on as strong footing as other devices that don't have a block or limiter which prevents the upper receiver from opening more than a certain amount.