Registered AR question

[Echo4kilo]

Hey guys. My wife will be out of work for awhile so I may need to free up some funds. I have a high end AR I may need to sell but it is registered. Is it faster to sell out of state?

[Milsurp1]

[Echo4kilo]

AW. I think I have to submit some paperwork to unregister it or does that matter? That is why I am thinking I can just drive across the border and ship it out to a buyers FFL from a FFL. Unregister it after.

[ZX9ALLDAY]

What brand AR? Part it out!

[Milsurp1]

[Echo4kilo]

I do not want to say the brand and be accused of selling on here. I was moving to Texas soon but who knows when now. Good ideas thanks.

[The War Wagon]

Never dump a lower - ESPECIALLY after all the hoops ya' hafta jump through out THERE!

[-hanko]

I do not want to say the brand and be accused of selling on here. I was moving to Texas soon but who knows when now. Good ideas thanks.

I'm not in California, so you can PM me the brand if you'd like.

It's been a buyer's market for quite a while before the virus stuff started.

[Mr.Caketown]

Your PSA "High End" AR isnt going to get you much currently. I would just sell the upper and keep the lower if it is registered. Use credit cards and keep your AR instead of getting lowballed.

[sigstroker]

I don't know why you would have to drive to another state to ship it if you sold the whole thing, but you certainly won't if you sold just the upper. But if it's a Noveske or something like that, not only would you have a hard time getting full value out of just selling an upper, but you would have a hard time replacing it.

As mentioned above, I'd be inclined to try to find some credit to ride you through before "stimulus" or unemployment money gets to you. You might be surprised, banks are hurting too and extending credit when I never thought they would. Most credit cards allow you to ask for a higher limit with just a few clicks and let you know right away. Banks can borrow from the Fed at just over 1 or 2% interest, so they want to borrow and re-lend as much as they can.

[edgerly779]

Lack of info. raw registered or just as ar semi auto. If not raw then sell on here.

[SkyHawk]

Keep the lower if it is RAW.

[loademup]

AW. I think I have to submit some paperwork to unregister it or does that matter? That is why I am thinking I can just drive across the border and ship it out to a buyers FFL from a FFL. Unregister it after.

When my RAWS were sold out of state, I filed form "Notice of No Longer in Possession" with the California DOJ Bureau of Firearms. I put my information and information about the out of state person/FFL I was transferring the rifle to and attached the documentation about the sale or transfer. After I submitted it, some weeks later, the DOJ acknowledged in a letter to me that the rifles were removed from the AW Registry under my name. At least that is what I did.

As far as taking it out of state yourself to sell, did you consider your travel expenses? I find some out state FFLs/ buyers may try to take advantage of you and try and low ball you. Make sure you have firm offers and also, as someone mentioned, the market for ARs is soft unless you really have something very special and in mint conditions from the early days of ARs. You may have a good quality rifle, but it may also be readily available either new or used elsewhere across the country.

[MarikinaMan]

If you know how to build an AR, buy a lower receiver, migrate the rifle over and sell it. Keep the lower and figure it out later. You can probably deregister the leftover lower since it’s not even a rifle anymore.

[Quiet]

AW. I think I have to submit some paperwork to unregister it or does that matter? That is why I am thinking I can just drive across the border and ship it out to a buyers FFL from a FFL. Unregister it after.

In order to deregistered it, you need to configure so that it is no longer considered an assault weapon and then submit proof to CA DOJ. [11 CCR 5478(a)(2)]
CA DOJ will then send a letter confirming that it has been deregistered as an assault weapon. (This process can take more than a year.)
After it has been deregistered it can legally be sold in CA.

If you sell it out-of-state, then all that is needed is the registered owner submitting a Notice of No Longer in Possession to CA DOJ. [11 CCR 5478(a)(3)]
^You will need the out-of-state FFL dealer's info (name, address, phone humber, FFL#), the buyer's info (name, address, phone number) and bill of sale.
CA DOJ will then mail you an acknowledgement letter in 4-64 weeks.




California Code of Regulations Title 11 Division 5 Chapter 39 Article 3 Section 5478
Voluntary Deregistration.
(a) The Department will accept voluntary deregistration requests for assault weapons that are no longer possessed by the registrant, in the form of a completed Form BOF 4546, “Notice of No Longer in Possession,” (Rev. 07/2017) hereby incorporated by reference. Deregistration requests will also be accepted for assault weapons, as defined in Penal Code section 30515, that have been modified or reconfigured to no longer meet that definition. Deregistration requests must be in writing, signed, dated, and provide the following information:
(1) Registrant's full name, telephone number, and current address; make, model, and serial number of the assault weapon; and the Department assault weapon registration number (as indicated on the registration confirmation letter provided to the registrant at the time of registration). If the Department assault weapon registration number is unknown, the request must be notarized.
(2) If the firearm has been modified or reconfigured to no longer meet the definition of assault weapon, one or more photographs clearly depicting the firearm in its current configuration shall be attached to the written deregistration request. Additional information, photographs, or inspection may be requested by the Department before determining eligibility for deregistration.
(3) If the registrant is no longer in possession of the firearm, proof of sale or transfer of the firearm shall be attached to the written deregistration request. Acceptable proof includes receipts from out-of-state gun stores, or law enforcement reports depicting the seizure and/or destruction of the firearm(s).
(b) Upon determining eligibility for deregistration, the Department will delete the assault weapon registration for the specified firearm(s), and, if the weapon is still in the possession of the registrant, will convert the information to a Firearm Ownership Report, form BOF 4542A (Rev. 12/2019).
(c) If the registrant has sold the weapon to a party outside of the State of California or otherwise lawfully disposed of the weapon, or if the weapon was seized by law enforcement, the Department will create a “No Longer In Possession” entry in the Automated Firearms System.
(d) Upon completion of the assault weapon deregistration, the Department will mail confirmation of deregistration and updated firearm ownership information to the registrant at the address provided on the request.