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  • #46
    nitroxdiver
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2009
    • 6979

    Buying my first M1A

    Originally posted by smle-man
    I changed out the Polytech faux flash hider to a SA Inc muzzle brake while in CA, then upgraded to a forged GI flash hider with bayonet lug once I left. There's nothing like that ringing sound from the forged flash hider when the rifle is fired!

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    • #47
      jarhead714
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2012
      • 7697

      It is an excellent brake. To get a more effective one Ron Smith would get some of my money and that I cannot stomach.

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      • #48
        smle-man
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2007
        • 10552

        Originally posted by jarhead714
        It is an excellent brake. To get a more effective one Ron Smith would get some of my money and that I cannot stomach.
        I concur, a great brake and very reasonably priced and it doesn't hamper accuracy at all. A lot of internet know-it-all types talk it down but I doubt most have never even tried it.

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        • #49
          DrjonesUSA
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 4680

          Originally posted by jarhead714
          To get a more effective one Ron Smith would get some of my money and that I cannot stomach.

          What, why?

          And who's that? Smith Enterprises, Inc / SEI?

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          • #50
            jarhead714
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2012
            • 7697

            Originally posted by DrjonesUSA
            What, why?

            And who's that? Smith Enterprises, Inc / SEI?

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            • #51
              ScottsBad
              Progressives Suck!
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • May 2009
              • 5610

              I suggest you watch this video first. Then get an AR in 7.62 NATO instead.

              sigpicC'mon man, shouldn't we ban Democracks from Cal-Guns? Or at least send them to re-education camps.

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              • #52
                jarhead714
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2012
                • 7697

                Originally posted by ScottsBad
                I suggest you watch this video first. Then get an AR in 7.62 NATO instead.

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                • #53
                  amishfarmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 644

                  So there is no real reason why this guy hates the M14....he hates how the Army went about testing it and using it(in conflicts he hasnt served in, so hes rehashing what hes heard) and, according to his logic, the argument could be made that the m16 is a terrible weapon because it was rushed into service.
                  Really this guy has a problem with the US Army and the bureaucracy of how they handle things and takes it out on the rifles. Which, for any of us who have served or worked for the government know, is pretty much normal operations.
                  I"m just a PA native trying to understand CA laws
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                  • #54
                    Tere_Hanges
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 6266

                    Originally posted by amishfarmer
                    So there is no real reason why this guy hates the M14....he hates how the Army went about testing it and using it(in conflicts he hasnt served in, so hes rehashing what hes heard) and, according to his logic, the argument could be made that the m16 is a terrible weapon because it was rushed into service.
                    Really this guy has a problem with the US Army and the bureaucracy of how they handle things and takes it out on the rifles. Which, for any of us who have served or worked for the government know, is pretty much normal operations.
                    That guy is long winded and likes to hear himself talk. But the gist is that the M14 was poorly conceived, obsolete at the time of development and fielding and really was unusable in automatic mode. The idea was that the M14 would replace the SMG, carbine, rifle, and automatic rifle. Which was just completely assinine.

                    The round is too powerful making the gun impossible to control in automatic fire. Really defeating its main purpose.

                    Really, the M14 should never have been designed. It was only in service between 1959 and 1965.

                    By the end of WWII, it became apparent that shorter range automatic rifles with lighter recoiling cartridges capable of laying down suppressive fire accurately at a range of 300meters or less, was the future.
                    Last edited by Tere_Hanges; 03-07-2020, 10:24 AM.
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                    • #55
                      jarhead714
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 7697

                      Originally posted by California_Deplorable
                      That guy is long winded and likes to hear himself talk. But the gist is that the M14 was poorly conceived, obsolete at the time of development and fielding and really was unusable in automatic mode. The idea was that the M14 would replace the SMG, carbine, rifle, and automatic rifle. Which was just completely assinine.

                      The round was too powerful and the gun is impossible to control in automatic.

                      Really, the M14 should never have been designed. It was only in service between 1959 and 1965.

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                      • #56
                        offrdmania
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4035

                        I have a never fired Springfield scout that ill trade to anyone for a full length barrel M1a of equal quality.
                        Previous iTrader rating, over 150 Positive ratings

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                        • #57
                          therealnickb
                          King- Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 8902

                          Originally posted by California_Deplorable
                          I got an 18" Scout and a 22" NM.

                          I shoot the scout more often. I put a cheap bushnell TRS-25 on the scout rail. It works great.

                          Never had any issues whatsoever with either of my M1As. They seem pretty solid and reliable. Eat pretty much anything. More accurate than me. Only cons are mounting a magnified optic is awkward as hell and they are way over priced. A basic M1A scout or loaded should be no more than $800 tops.

                          I cannot run any kind of magnified optic on an M1A. It just doesnt work. The scope is so high up that the butt rests way low on my torso. So low that the shoulder rest (thing that goes up) is useless. The stock ends up slipping down after ever shot. The M1A simply was not designed for a magnified optic.
                          I have an Ultimak rail on a socom. Using one, you could run a scout scope without a cheek riser. But scope choices are limited. Eye relief being the issue of course.

                          Here's red dot with co-witness.


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                          • #58
                            therealnickb
                            King- Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 8902

                            Originally posted by Verdha603
                            Have an M1A Standard with the wood stock on it, I just rock it stock with iron sights and it shoots better than me. I cant hit 300 yard steel plates all day with zero effort, and provided I take my sweet time and provide the proper level of Kentucky windage based on the current winds at the range, I can put the majority of my shots onto the 400 and 500 meter plates as well.

                            I think the only complaint I have with the rifle at this point is inserting and removing magazines from it is a pain in the *** compared to almost every other detachable magazine rifle I've handled. Honestly it sometimes makes me half tempted to just transition to utilizing the stripper clip guide and feeding it like a larger-capacity M1 Garand instead.
                            I have a scout that was like that and a socom that is easy peasy. The scout magwell was out of spec. A little filing took care of it.

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                            • #59
                              Garand Hunter
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 2761

                              For # 54, we had m14 rifles in Europe up to the middle of '67 with the AR's being issued in June July etc at the Husterhoh Kasern in Pirmasens, West Germany. Just passing this along. I was in HHQ 59th Ordnance Group, AWSCOM. Any AWSCOM guys out there ? 65 to 67 ?

                              Psalm 1
                              Last edited by Garand Hunter; 03-07-2020, 11:04 AM. Reason: Added another sentence

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                              • #60
                                Tere_Hanges
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 6266

                                Originally posted by therealnickb
                                I have an Ultimak rail on a socom. Using one, you could run a scout scope without a cheek riser. But scope choices are limited. Eye relief being the issue of course.

                                Here's red dot with co-witness.


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                                Might have to get one to run a cowitness red dot.
                                CRPA and NRA member.

                                Note that those who have repeatedly expressed enough vile and incoherent content as to render your views irrelevant, have been placed on my ignore list. Thank you for helping me improve my experience and direct my attention towards those who are worthy of it. God bless your toxic little souls.

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