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  • #31
    kalifornia.kompliant
    Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 356

    Originally posted by Sputnik
    Wouldn't it have to be converted to a rifle (maglocked or featureless) before it came in-state? Even a maglocked SP5 pistol is still going to run up against the roster (unless we see progress in the courts).

    eta: I was just reading the Pena application for cert at SCOTUS and now I'm not sure...does the fixed mag/maglock option obviate the roster compliance requirement?





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    • #32
      sigstroker
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2009
      • 18997

      3 lug is threaded like a cat is a moose.

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      • #33
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 56844

        Originally posted by kalifornia.kompliant
        the tri-lug barrel is basically a threaded barrel right?
        No.
        Lugs are NOT threads if they are not helical and cut all the way around the barrel like threads.
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        • #34
          gunsmithcats
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 1382

          It is three lug and threaded.
          For Sale!!
          Glock 44 .22lr

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          • #35
            Milsurp1
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            • Aug 2016
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            • #36
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 56844

              They really should fix the PC to match with the CCR's...
              The PC does not state anything about lugs.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
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              • #37
                Sputnik
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 2090

                Originally posted by Mute
                No, it does not. It only keeps the pistol from being an assault weapon.
                Thanks, that's what I thought. It was some of the wording in the cert application that made me think I had misunderstood the law.

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                • #38
                  Sputnik
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 2090


                  Look at how the Maglatch works. On the HK the button and paddle are connected so if the button is blocked or prevented from being depressed it also keeps the paddle from operating. As the paddle is pushed forward the button is drawn down. Blocking the button also blocks the paddle.

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                  • #39
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 56844

                    Originally posted by Sputnik
                    Look at how the Maglatch works. On the HK the button and paddle are connected so if the button is blocked or prevented from being depressed it also keeps the paddle from operating. As the paddle is pushed forward the button is drawn down. Blocking the button also blocks the paddle.
                    If you COVERED an HK magazine release button so that a finger can not actuate it but left the paddle intact, the paddle would still actuate the magazine latch.
                    If you CAPTURED the HK magazine latch to the reciever, then neither the paddle or the release button would release a magazine.
                    Blocking the BUTTON does NOT stop the paddle from moving the magazine catch if you are not ALSO blocking the movement of the magazine catch.
                    So what REALLY matters in trying to fix an HK magazine is blocking the magazine CATCH or the actual magazine from moving, not the button or paddle.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
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                    • #40
                      Sputnik
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 2090

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      If you COVERED an HK magazine release button so that a finger can not actuate it but left the paddle intact, the paddle would still actuate the magazine latch.
                      If you CAPTURED the HK magazine latch to the reciever, then neither the paddle or the release button would release a magazine.
                      Blocking the BUTTON does NOT stop the paddle from moving the magazine catch if you are not ALSO blocking the movement of the magazine catch.
                      So what REALLY matters in trying to fix an HK magazine is blocking the magazine CATCH or the actual magazine from moving, not the button or paddle.
                      Yes bad choice of words on my part.
                      When I said "block" I was not meaning "cover" but rather some other method of preventing the button from moving. The Maglatch product appears to put a pin into the hole in the center of the roll pin thats in the release button preventing the button from being depressed, thus also preventing the paddle from moving and effectively defeating the entire mag release mechanism.
                      Last edited by Sputnik; 12-30-2019, 10:29 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Quiet
                        retired Goon
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 30239

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        They really should fix the PC to match with the CCR's...
                        The PC does not state anything about lugs.
                        PC lets DOJ create regulations to govern/clarify the PC. [PC 30520(c)]
                        Regulations say "threaded barrel" includes barrel lugs. [11 CCR 5460 & 5471(rr)]


                        Penal Code 30515Penal Code 30520
                        (c) The Attorney General shall adopt those rules and regulations that may be necessary or proper to carry out the purposes and intent of this chapter.

                        California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 39 Article 1 Section 5460
                        The definitions of terms in section 5471 of this chapter shall apply to the identification of assault weapons pursuant to Penal Code section 30515.

                        California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 39 Article 2 Section 5471
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                        • #42
                          car15
                          Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 493

                          For pennies, take a 13mm copper oil drain plug gasket and cut it to form a horse shoe. Then slide it under the release button. The grip module will hold it in place. The button can not be depressed. Make sure to close the bolt before inserting the magazine.

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