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  • #16
    Milsurp1
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 3091

    I saw an ad on another site for a used AR pistol. The SB/Maxim brace was installed upside down. If you know how to inspect an AR for proper assembly or will pay a gunsmith to do so, nothing wrong with shopping for a used AR.

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    • #17
      readysetgo
      CGSSA Coordinator
      • Aug 2011
      • 8689

      But...it's CUSTOM!
      Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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      • #18
        SISKIN
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 872

        Never had a bad one yet ,in any form of firearm.I think most people here do not want to sell you something that does not work ..

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        • #19
          Cody805
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 1229

          Originally posted by ZX9ALLDAY
          Legos... plug and play ... if something doesnt work or you dont like, just replace it. Build numerous from some new or some old, they all run well.
          This!

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          • #20
            nitroxdiver
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2009
            • 6979

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            • #21
              condor
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 1102

              I'm not an AR guy, but I have bought 2nd hand for over 50 years. When buying anything used, consider it used parts, and price it accordingly..
              Also, assume something's not right even if it's not apparent. Same reason buying and shooting reloaded ammo is frowned on unless the plan is to disassemble for components, and for that reason you buy it on the cheap. Like I stated I'm AR challenged, but from following some of these threads out of curiosity I do know that an AR DNA can be widely different from one gun to the next. Different manufactures, different styles, different calibers, different parts, triggers etc..etc... Too confusing for this guy. Also, a used AR is built to individual taste and preferences. What works for one may not for the other. Someone advised that buying a generic from a major manufacture might be a better way to go. I agree. If something does go wrong you have back up, otherwise you're on your own for someone else's mistake.... IMHO
              WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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              • #22
                brianm767
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 2418

                I've sold several that I put together, basic M4 style in the $475-$500 range, never had one complaint of any issues, infact I need to sell a couple more right now. I use mostly barreled uppers form PSA, but I've built a few up also, and all the AR's ive put together for myself and family members as well, never had a single functioning issue.

                Only issue I've ever had with an AR is Mag issues.

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                • #23
                  timbo399
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 1765

                  Ar's are so cheap these days I'd feel much better just buying a new name brand rather than something someone else put together.

                  It's a buyer's market these days for new AR's.

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                  • #24
                    alpha_romeo_XV
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 2876

                    "Someone else's build" covers a very broad range of possibilities. Does putting a complete lower with a complete upper = a build?

                    Unless a barrel to receiver install and gas block install were involved, everything could be easily disassembled, verified, and reinstalled.

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                    • #25
                      crufflers
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 12723

                      Yeah it depends on what kind of "build". BUT AR's are not exactly like LEGO's. LEGO's are HARDER.

                      I'd try to pin down WHY THEY ARE SELLING IT. I don't want to buy a reject or the worst of the bunch. Ya know?

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                      • #26
                        condor
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1102

                        Originally posted by brianm767
                        I've sold several that I put together, basic M4 style in the $475-$500 range, never had one complaint of any issues, infact I need to sell a couple more right now. I use mostly barreled uppers form PSA, but I've built a few up also, and all the AR's ive put together for myself and family members as well, never had a single functioning issue.

                        Only issue I've ever had with an AR is Mag issues.
                        So let me ask a hypothetical question. If someone were to get injured while shooting one of your AR's and slaps a law suit on you.. hey God forbid, but ***** does happen... are you prepared to weather the legal storm?? Or on the flip side is someone shooting one of your AR's ready to except the blame for a possible life altering injury they are not directly responsible for?? I know it's a rarity, but as a manufacturers rep I've had to deal with a couple of firearm related injuries in the past....
                        WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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                        • #27
                          brianm767
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 2418

                          Originally posted by condor
                          So let me ask a hypothetical question. If someone were to get injured while shooting one of your AR's and slaps a law suit on you.. hey God forbid, but ***** does happen... are you prepared to weather the legal storm?? Or on the flip side is someone shooting one of your AR's ready to except the blame for a possible life altering injury they are not directly responsible for?? I know it's a rarity, but as a manufacturers rep I've had to deal with a couple of firearm related injuries in the past....
                          Yes it is something to consider, but I think anyone here who's ever sold a firearm could possibly find them selves in the same position, did you ever disassembly it and reassemble it, break it down clean it and reassemble it? But I do see the risk is higher in this situation. Thats the reason I mostly use barreled uppers from reputable manufactures such as PSA, Delton or others, I am building these rifles for my self or my kids or family members to shoot so I want to be safe, but if there is a failure which causes an injury to myself or someone else, it would most likely caused by the barrel assy/upper receiver, but yes it still could end up in a legal mess having to prove it wasn't me putting the barreled upper on the lower, it was your reloads or what ever. I dont think any one of us is prepared for that. I wouldn't be building up M1A's or Garands, but an AR, yes, I'll keep building them for myself, and the ones I occasionally choose to not keep when I get bored of them, Ill sell them off.
                          Last edited by brianm767; 01-15-2019, 7:09 AM.

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                          • #28
                            billped
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 2504

                            ^^^^^^ One more reason to justify my refusal to sell any of my guns ....

                            :-)
                            Bill

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                            • #29
                              Califpatriot
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 2438

                              Originally posted by condor
                              So let me ask a hypothetical question. If someone were to get injured while shooting one of your AR's and slaps a law suit on you.. hey God forbid, but ***** does happen... are you prepared to weather the legal storm?? Or on the flip side is someone shooting one of your AR's ready to except the blame for a possible life altering injury they are not directly responsible for?? I know it's a rarity, but as a manufacturers rep I've had to deal with a couple of firearm related injuries in the past....
                              Get good umbrella insurance?

                              Also, strict liability doesn't apply to casual/occasional sellers.
                              In case it wasn't obvious, nothing I write here should be interpreted as legal advice.

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                              • #30
                                condor
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1102

                                Originally posted by Califpatriot
                                Get good umbrella insurance?

                                Also, strict liability doesn't apply to casual/occasional sellers.
                                Personal liability is covered by an umbrella or blanket policy. If a gun is made for resale it might be construed as a business... I bet a lawyer would have a lot of fun with that one.. :-)
                                WITHOUT THE 2nd THERE WON'T BE A 1st...]

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