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  • 4GLOCK30
    Member
    • Jun 2018
    • 373

    "Good" Red Dot micro?

    I know you typically get what you pay for....with that said is there a good red dot in the $150 range or do you need to drop $300-$500. The later I can't justify.

    This is for a Ruger PCC so not really something I would use much beyond 50-100 yards and primarily in the 50 yard range

    I did use the Bushnell TR 25 and did not like it. Turning it up enough to see in bright daylight just turned it into a blur

    Is the Primary Arms or Vortex $150 ones any better than the $50 Bushnell?

    Recommendations appreciated

    Being able to turn it off without taking battery out would be good
  • #2
    Scratch705
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    • May 2009
    • 12530

    vortex, Primary Arms and holosun

    those are the three i would consider in the good cheap small red dot sector.

    if you want to up the cost a little bit, nikon and sig sauer are new players in the small red dot game.
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    • #3
      tradecraft
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 4630

      Do you have astigmatism?
      Link to my feedback: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...ser-tradecraft

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      • #4
        4GLOCK30
        Member
        • Jun 2018
        • 373

        Originally posted by tradecraft
        Do you have astigmatism?
        no but I do wear contacts

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        • #5
          Rorge Retson
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 2712

          Originally posted by tradecraft
          Do you have astigmatism?
          I do. Does that make a difference?

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          • #6
            alexisjohnson
            Senior Member
            • May 2016
            • 651

            If you saw a blob...there are two possibilities....the first is that the unit was defective, while the second is that you have astigmatism.

            If you have it...you won't see a circle...you'll see a starburst type thing.

            One way to check is if you have a rear back up sight...pop it up and look at the circle through that. If it suddenly becomes oh so clear...you have astigmatism...

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            • #7
              4GLOCK30
              Member
              • Jun 2018
              • 373

              Originally posted by Scratch705
              vortex, Primary Arms and holosun

              those are the three i would consider in the good cheap small red dot sector.

              if you want to up the cost a little bit, nikon and sig sauer are new players in the small red dot game.
              yeah have this Vortex on my "list" on Amazon



              and this Primary Arms



              Leaning towards the Primary Arms one....but IDK how much better these are over the $50 Bushnell....

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              • #8
                BigBamBoo
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2008
                • 5215

                I run a Vortex Razor 3 MOA on my Ruger.

                Here is my setup:






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                • #9
                  4GLOCK30
                  Member
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 373

                  Originally posted by alexisjohnson
                  If you saw a blob...there are two possibilities....the first is that the unit was defective, while the second is that you have astigmatism.

                  ...
                  No it was not blurry...it was just really hard to "see" the red dot in bright sunlight

                  The holosun on the AR, WAY WAY better...but yeah it costs $

                  Given this one is for the Ruger PCC and mostly short yard (50-70 yards) shooting I was hopeful to not have to drop $300 to "see" the dot without "searching" for it

                  I get the $49 Bushnell is...well cheap and low end for red dots...just hopeful a $150 is considerably better

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                  • #10
                    xxINKxx
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 4289

                    Holosun is nice.

                    Ive had bad luck with just about every vortex red dot product failing with only range plinking use. The holosun is about the only chinese optic that i feel is really good quality that I will buy. And their customer service is 2nd to none.
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                    • #11
                      W.R.Buchanan
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3379

                      The Bushnell TRS-25 is the best bang for your low priced Red Dot buck out there.

                      They run anywhere from $60 -$110 depending on what time of year and if you get the one with the built in riser (for AR's)

                      Any big website like Midway Optics Planet mIdsouth will have literally hundreds of reviews at 4.5 and above.

                      I have 6 of these sights and not one has burped or farted even once. They all perform flawlessly on my Carbines, .22, and even on my Scout Rifle or Shotgun.

                      If the gun is a 300 yard gun you can definitely hit with this sight.

                      Excellent sight and don't let the $ fool you. Sometimes you get alot more for your money than you thought you would.

                      Try one ,, You'll like it.

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                      • #12
                        WWDHD?
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 2688

                        I have the Sig Romeo 5 on my Ruger. It's my first RD so I'm no expert with them but I like it a lot and the rifle is very accurate with it.
                        Indoors it looks a bit starish to me and turning the power down helps. Outdoors it looks much clearer to me. I was also looking at the Vortex Sparc but found a deal on the Sig first for around $125 shipped through a sale at Midway. Last Labor day PSA had them for a bit less - around $120 I think. The Sig senses movement so it turns itself off after a few minuets if left still & powers up as soon as you pick it up or move it. Pretty nice little RD IMO. Good luck.
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                        • #13
                          BucDan
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 4062

                          The second generation vortex rds is my go to.

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                          • #14
                            TS77
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1697

                            I've tried a gambit of the economy red dots, you can get the Romeo 5 for under $125 now, j think that's the best bang for your buck: motion activated 40k-50k battery life, good Warranty. People say it's rebadged holosun

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                            • #15
                              SteveHamn
                              Member
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 196

                              I have a Vortex Venom in my AK and love it, a little higher price but good quality, might be able to get a good deal somewhere.

                              If you have a red dot that is blurry and want to check if its the dot or your eyes take a picture of the dot with your phone. If its blurry in the picture its the dot, if its clear is your eyes

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