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  • #16
    Mute
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 8450

    Originally posted by BluNorthern
    After more research I ordered the 33.3 tactical calcatch unmodified and will pair it with the Juggernaut rear pin.

    I don't like the idea of the bolt carrier not locking back.

    We'll see how it goes.
    Let us know if the 33.3 catch will allow the mag release to function if you activate the JT latch with the bolt locked back.
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    • #17
      BluNorthern
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2010
      • 10236

      Originally posted by Mute
      Let us know if the 33.3 catch will allow the mag release to function if you activate the JT latch with the bolt locked back.
      That's the concern I have. Heard about bolt catching on magazine lips and people filing on them...i want something that works as an unmodified AR.
      "I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

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      • #18
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 56941

        Originally posted by Mute
        Let us know if the 33.3 catch will allow the mag release to function if you activate the JT latch with the bolt locked back.
        Neither the Kingpin or the Juggernaught rear pin will allow the upper to hinge open enough to change mags when the carrier is locked back.

        That being the case, I actually prefer the lack of an automatic bolt catch as it allows you to reload when the mag runs empty without HAVING to manually activate the bolt release before you can hinge the upper open to change mags.

        The better way is to do a tactical reload before the chamber runs dry though because then you don't have to cycle the carrier to load a cartridge from the new mag.
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        • #19
          ChonchAR
          Member
          • Apr 2018
          • 356

          Does the 33.3 tactical work on an ambi bolt catch lower?

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          • #20
            Frank_5.0
            Member
            • Dec 2017
            • 199

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            Neither the Kingpin or the Juggernaught rear pin will allow the upper to hinge open enough to change mags when the carrier is locked back.

            That being the case, I actually prefer the lack of an automatic bolt catch as it allows you to reload when the mag runs empty without HAVING to manually activate the bolt release before you can hinge the upper open to change mags.

            The better way is to do a tactical reload before the chamber runs dry though because then you don't have to cycle the carrier to load a cartridge from the new mag.

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            • #21
              Ltn
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2017
              • 31

              Hey guys. I have the 33.3 calcatch and the king pin installed right now. It doesn't not allow you to drop the mag with the bolt held back. However, if you drop the bolt and press the button it has plenty of room to drop the mag. I'm wondering if someone wants to try working the 33.3 cal catch to release the mag with bolt hold back when the kingpin/ juggernaut pin is pressed.


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              • #22
                Mandalorian
                Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 386

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                • #23
                  Frank_5.0
                  Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 199

                  Originally posted by Ltn
                  Hey guys. I have the 33.3 calcatch and the king pin installed right now. It doesn't not allow you to drop the mag with the bolt held back. However, if you drop the bolt and press the button it has plenty of room to drop the mag. I'm wondering if someone wants to try working the 33.3 cal catch to release the mag with bolt hold back when the kingpin/ juggernaut pin is pressed.


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                  • #24
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 56941

                    I would like to see that in person.
                    Maybe it happens with a special carrier or a really sloppy fitting carrier, but not with in-spec parts.
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                    • #25
                      Mute
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 8450

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      I would like to see that in person.
                      Maybe it happens with a special carrier or a really sloppy fitting carrier, but not with in-spec parts.
                      It can work if you shave enough material off the AR Maglock where it slides in between the upper and lower. Even with the minimal amount of opening with a locked back bolt, it can work but it takes a bit of finagling.
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                      • #26
                        protohyp
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 3349

                        Originally posted by Mute
                        It can work if you shave enough material off the AR Maglock where it slides in between the upper and lower. Even with the minimal amount of opening with a locked back bolt, it can work but it takes a bit of finagling.


                        AR Maglock already did that work for you with the Gen 2 kits


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                        • #27
                          Strykeback
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 1574

                          Was about to order a couple juggernaut tactical sets, only because i dont like the togglinf and then retoggling to hing it closed of the 33.3 setup. Just discovered videos of the kingpin setup but like others mentioned, the fact they recommend making sure the upper and lower fittings arent set super tight leaves me questionkng it when i run Mega arms as well as new frontier setups that are perfectly tight.

                          You guys mixing and matching parts out of these expensive kits?! Dang thats getting expensive.

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                          • #28
                            Frank_5.0
                            Member
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 199

                            Originally posted by Strykeback
                            Was about to order a couple juggernaut tactical sets, only because i dont like the togglinf and then retoggling to hing it closed of the 33.3 setup. Just discovered videos of the kingpin setup but like others mentioned, the fact they recommend making sure the upper and lower fittings arent set super tight leaves me questionkng it when i run Mega arms as well as new frontier setups that are perfectly tight.

                            You guys mixing and matching parts out of these expensive kits?! Dang thats getting expensive.

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                            • #29
                              dwinters14
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 729

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              I would like to see that in person.
                              Maybe it happens with a special carrier or a really sloppy fitting carrier, but not with in-spec parts.
                              I did it with an ARMaglock and Juggernaut and so did a fellow shooter after I recommended the mod to him.

                              It takes fine tuning to get it right but it works.
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                              • #30
                                ar15barrels
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 56941

                                Originally posted by Mute
                                It can work if you shave enough material off the AR Maglock where it slides in between the upper and lower. Even with the minimal amount of opening with a locked back bolt, it can work but it takes a bit of finagling.
                                I installed a Gen2 ARmaglock kit with the kingpin the other day.
                                Even though the armaglock is VERY THIN, it was not enough to slip in between the upper and lower with the bolt locked back.
                                As I said before, you need a very sloppy fitting carrier and buffer tube for it to work as the parts come.
                                Further shaving of the Gen2 ARmaglock would make the ARmaglock easy to break just with finger pressure.
                                Randall Rausch

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                                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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