Featureless Penal Code section 30515 question

[tdanielran]

i might be wrong but can someone confirm that per Penal Code section 30515, we can have a compensator and use standard capacity (30 rounds) if we have a featureless Ar15.

[heyasiankid]

Featureless Penal Code section 30515 question

Compensators I'm not sure, but I'd go with not allowed since they aren't allowed on semi-auto rifles due to compensators could be described as reducing/hiding muzzle Flash.

Magazines and clips over 10 rounds are banned/ illegal to own in California. There are some special rules that allow you to get away with it though.

[SkyHawk]

If you legally possessed a standard cap mag in CA before 2000, then you can currently use it in a featureless rifle. However that is only by the grace of a court injunction, expiration TBD. And standard cap mags can be confiscated as a public nuisance.

No one I know is going out in public with standard cap mags and featureless rifles, legal or not.

[Librarian]

Features from 30515 are

30515.


(a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:

(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:

(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.

(B) A thumbhole stock.

(C) A folding or telescoping stock.

(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.

(E) A flash suppressor.

(F) A forward pistol grip.

A compensator is probably not a flash suppressor.

(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

A removable magazine is not a 'fixed magazine'. (Our argument, accepted in practice by DOJ, was that a 'bullet button' or other magazine locking device made such a rifle 'fixed magazine'.)

So yes, you could use magazines with a capacity > 10 in a featureless rifle, that also had a compensator (that did not somehow get classified as a flash hider).

Possession of 10+ capacity mags is a different question, as noted above.

[Bullets&Whitewalls]

Compensators or brakes should be gtg as long as they are that. anything that was advertised as having flash hiding capabilities are a no go.