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  • AregularGuy
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 2792

    M16 sight issue

    Hi all. I just got back from an Army reserve drill weekend. I was cleaning my rifle, M16A2, when I noticed the spring from the rear sight poking down into the channel for the charging handle. I didn't take a picture. And yes, we are still using M16's. M4's on order for quite some time now. Comparing my rifle to other rifles there should be a little plug of some sort that backs the spring up. Mine is missing. My rifle is now deadlined. Funny thing is we shot our rifles last month and I had no issues. Anyone know the name of that little plug/part or where I can get one? Does it just screw in? Any info for installation, etc would be great. I'm sure I will be told to wait for the armorer but that will likely take ages. Thanks in advance.
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    Barang
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2013
    • 11724

    Sounds like you're missing or have broken pin?

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    • #3
      russ69
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2009
      • 9348

      Originally posted by AregularGuy
      ...I'm sure I will be told to wait for the armorer but that will likely take ages. Thanks in advance.
      The services are setup so the gun goes back to the armorer. They don't want GIs doing their own repairs. The armorer should be able to issue you a replacement until your gun can be repaired.
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      • #4
        nate76239
        Senior Member
        • May 2013
        • 1622

        Try Numrich gun parts. You can look it up on a parts diagram https://www.gunpartscorp.com/

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        • #5
          AregularGuy
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 2792

          Originally posted by russ69
          The services are setup so the gun goes back to the armorer. They don't want GIs doing their own repairs. The armorer should be able to issue you a replacement until your gun can be repaired.
          Thanks to all for the replies. I suppose the above is the correct answer and they do have a few extra rifles. We have range qualification in 2 months and was hoping to have my rifle for that. I am not holding out hope that an armorer will get to it before then. It seems to be a very slow process to get repairs done.
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          • #6
            FeuerFrei
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2008
            • 7455

            OP
            Download your own pdf copy of " ARMY TM 9-1005-319-23&P ". freebie.
            All the parts displayed as per govt armorer.
            M16A2 covered.....

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            • #7
              russ69
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2009
              • 9348

              As a stickler for military parts control and production control processes, you don't want to introduce non-bonded parts into the supply chain/equipment. Bad idea all around.
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              • #8
                Tacit Blue
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 4134

                point it out to the armorer when you turn it back in..
                "All that is complex is not useful. All that is useful is simple."
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                • #9
                  PyroFox79
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 2603

                  Originally posted by russ69
                  As a stickler for military parts control and production control processes, you don't want to introduce non-bonded parts into the supply chain/equipment. Bad idea all around.
                  Sometimes it's necessary if you can get it faster by sourcing a part. When I was an armorer we had to track down parts from civilian gun stores because the regular supply system would have taken 6 months to get the part.

                  The armory should have those parts on hand. Granted you're a weekend warrior so probably not. It also depends on how lazy your armorer is. From what I saw when I went through school in Aberdeen....you're screwed.
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                  • #10
                    smle-man
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 10554

                    As a former Ordnance type who ran a small arms shop once upon a time I can provide this advice: Leave it alone. I saw more damage done to small arms by soldiers trying to repair/tune up/improve/modify them than I can count.

                    If your arms room has spare rifles and you are issued one, before you accept it, make sure everything functions properly and the rear sight is tight and holds and repeats adjustments. That's it.

                    Best of luck on qual.
                    Last edited by smle-man; 04-23-2018, 9:54 PM.

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                    • #11
                      FeuerFrei
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 7455

                      My take on the OP's query is that he just wanted someone to provide an answer to a part's name/designation and see for himself what is or isn't in place on his issued service rifle. It's good to ask questions and pull back the curtains so to speak.
                      I think it's a good thing to know as much as possible about a weapon that a soldier is required to use. I'm also sure he knows the SOP for reporting deficiencies in issued equipment. I suspect that there were others in the food chain that made it clear to him as to what to do and NOT do with regard to repairs.

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                      • #12
                        AregularGuy
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 2792

                        Originally posted by FeuerFrei
                        My take on the OP's query is that he just wanted someone to provide an answer to a part's name/designation and see for himself what is or isn't in place on his issued service rifle. It's good to ask questions and pull back the curtains so to speak.
                        I think it's a good thing to know as much as possible about a weapon that a soldier is required to use. I'm also sure he knows the SOP for reporting deficiencies in issued equipment. I suspect that there were others in the food chain that made it clear to him as to what to do and NOT do with regard to repairs.

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                        Thanks for the link. I agree with your thoughts on being familiar with your equipment. And yes, I have folks that won't let me do anything stupid.


                        Originally posted by smle-man
                        As a former Ordnance type who ran a small arms shop once upon a time I can provide this advice: Leave it alone. I saw more damage done to small arms by soldiers trying to repair/tune up/improve/modify them than I can count.

                        If your arms room has spare rifles and you are issued one, before you accept it, make sure everything functions properly and the rear sight is tight and holds and repeats adjustments. That's it.

                        Best of luck on qual.

                        Point taken and thank you!


                        Originally posted by PyroFox79
                        Sometimes it's necessary if you can get it faster by sourcing a part. When I was an armorer we had to track down parts from civilian gun stores because the regular supply system would have taken 6 months to get the part.

                        The armory should have those parts on hand. Granted you're a weekend warrior so probably not. It also depends on how lazy your armorer is. From what I saw when I went through school in Aberdeen....you're screwed.
                        Pretty much screwed. Last month we had a small brass connector for an air hose fail on one of our generators during annual training. I had a Colonel hounding me for a week about the generators while my mechanics worked on getting an NSN for the part so they could order it. Meanwhile folks from supply chain would not help with parts and were too busy top get the mechanics to the cannibal yard so they could look for themselves. After a week and a half of di*king around we tasked them to go to Home Depot. Colonel didn't care once I told her the problem was fixed.

                        Originally posted by russ69
                        As a stickler for military parts control and production control processes, you don't want to introduce non-bonded parts into the supply chain/equipment. Bad idea all around.
                        Yes, point taken. Thank you for the input.
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                        How about my sister? what can she do now? Still virgin and need Glcok."

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                        • #13
                          FeuerFrei
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7455

                          Colonel sounds pragmatic & practical.
                          Having never served, but I always appreciated clear and simple no nonsense direction. (6+yrs fire service)
                          Chief would say, "I don't care how you do it as long as it gets done correctly/quickly!"
                          Correctly/quickly being the operative words.
                          Doing anything incorrectly might have resulted in my paying the headsman his due.

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