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  • dirtykoala
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    • Dec 2008
    • 3476

    pmag question

    so i know there are a lot of legalities around everything gun related, but i have a question about pmag rebuild kits. did the pmag exist before the hi-cap ban? or is every legal and civilian owned pmag going to be a 10 round?
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    69Mach1
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    • Jan 2006
    • 15032

    Did the PMag design exist before the 2000 high cap mag ban.......NO. But the lucky CG's who have preban high cap mags can rebuild them into the PMags, Lancers, HK, etc.

    BTW, PMags were created in 2006.
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    • #3
      dirtykoala
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      • Dec 2008
      • 3476

      does anyone ever check this? can someone buy a re-build kit, assemble a 30 round mag, and say they had it before the ban? HYPOTHETICALLY or is some proof needed? this doesnt apply to me because i wasnt old enough to own a mag in 2000

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      • #4
        Long Rifle
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 143

        Originally posted by dirtykoala
        does anyone ever check this? can someone buy a re-build kit, assemble a 30 round mag, and say they had it before the ban? HYPOTHETICALLY or is some proof needed? this doesnt apply to me because i wasnt old enough to own a mag in 2000
        No. Pmags didn't exist back in 2000. They didn't even become widely available until around 2006, so how can one claim he had it before the ban?
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        • #5
          dirtykoala
          Banned
          • Dec 2008
          • 3476

          Originally posted by 69Mach1
          Did the PMag design exist before the 2000 high cap mag ban.......NO. But the lucky CG's who have preban high cap mags can rebuild them into the PMags, Lancers, HK, etc.

          BTW, PMags were created in 2006.
          im confused

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          • #6
            oldschool88
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 787

            Originally posted by dirtykoala
            does anyone ever check this? can someone buy a re-build kit, assemble a 30 round mag, and say they had it before the ban? HYPOTHETICALLY or is some proof needed? this doesnt apply to me because i wasnt old enough to own a mag in 2000
            Physically it is totally possible, but the act itself is a crime. The burden of proof lies with the prosecution, but that doesn't make it worth it to me. You don't need proof, but if you are a younger guy (like me) you would definately draw some scrutiny from a LEO. It is a crime to assemble them into high caps(in that manor) so I would not do it. There is no reason though that us younger guys can't have a whole bunch of re build kits sitting around for a rainy and dangerous day.

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            • #7
              professorhard
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 2328

              So you weren't born before the year 2000? There is no minimun age to own a mag. And what they are saying is that you could have a pre-ban USGI mag that wore out and you rebuilt it with new Pmag parts thus making a Pmag that is really just replacement parts of an old USGI 30 round metal mag
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              • #8
                Jicko
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2005
                • 8774

                Originally posted by dirtykoala
                im confused
                Confused about what? If you have a hicap mag before 2000, then u can continue to have it and use it. if you don't have that hicap mag before 2000, you cannot get one now. If you have a hicap mag before 2000, and it broke, you can repair it, as simple as that. What someone else has is their problem, none of your business.
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                • #9
                  dirtykoala
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                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3476

                  gah, so many laws, so if in 7th grade i purchased a bunch of hi-cap mags, i could use them today and it would be legal? i thought you had to be 18 to buy mags or rounds or a rifle

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                  • #10
                    oldschool88
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 787

                    Originally posted by dirtykoala
                    im confused
                    If you had a pre ban high cap you could re build it by replacing all the parts with magpul parts and taking apart the old high cap. But you should (in the end) have no more high caps than what you started with before the ban.

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                    • #11
                      sorensen440
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 8612

                      Originally posted by dirtykoala
                      does anyone ever check this? can someone buy a re-build kit, assemble a 30 round mag, and say they had it before the ban? HYPOTHETICALLY or is some proof needed? this doesnt apply to me because i wasnt old enough to own a mag in 2000
                      This would be a felony

                      and there was never an age restriction on buying magazines so yes you were old enough if you are over 9 years old now
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                      • #12
                        dirtykoala
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 3476

                        Originally posted by 69Mach1
                        Did the PMag design exist before the 2000 high cap mag ban.......NO. But the lucky CG's who have preban high cap mags can rebuild them into the PMags, Lancers, HK, etc.

                        BTW, PMags were created in 2006.
                        confused about that. does this mean you if you own a legal 30 round ar mag from 1999 or older and you beat it with a sledge hammer, you then buy and assemble a pmag as a "rebuild"

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                        • #13
                          professorhard
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                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2328

                          Yes you just had to be alive on Dec. 31st 1999 and you could own standard cap mags. Its 18 to buy ammo but no minimum age to buy mags
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                          To accept the things I cannot change;
                          The courage to change the things I can;
                          And the wisdom to know the difference.

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                          • #14
                            oldschool88
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 787

                            Originally posted by dirtykoala
                            confused about that. does this mean you if you own a legal 30 round ar mag from 1999 or older and you beat it with a sledge hammer, you then buy and assemble a pmag as a "rebuild"
                            More or less yes, no need for the hammer, just take it appart.

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                            • #15
                              dirtykoala
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 3476

                              ok im not confused now

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