Aero M5 Lower With PSA PA-10 Upper

[Watercadet]

I just had a POF Upper fit to my M5 lower

While it is awesome, I do wish all the lines mated better. My recommendation is to buy the Aero stripped upper and build it up with the components you like (or can afford)

Thanks for the info. Just so hard to look past a $400 complete upper (BCG and CH included) with a CHF barrel and floating handgaurd. Maybe I'll price out an Aero upper and swap the PSA components over. Perhaps there will be a stripped PA-10 upper post in my future.

[SloChicken]

Not really. It started out as a stripped lower; like many have. It has been completed into a rifle before 2017 and is eligible to become a BB era RAW.
Now I'm looking for specific fitment information regarding mating a PSA PA-10 upper to my Aero M5 lower. How is this so difficult?

Oh, and the grip angle on a Glock sucks. But I still own a few. Talk amongst yourselves!

No it won't fit.

Yes, machining the charging handle and/or the top portion of the lower could work. But that is just idiotic when one can purchase an appropriate (i.e., Aero) upper for about 100 bucks if you look around.

last,

U come across as kind of an *** dude.

Maybe lighten up a bit?

[Ubermcoupe]

I guess the title and second paragraph were lost on you.

I specifically did not invite questions on legality. In fact, I discouraged them.

Apparently low post count means I'm a dumbass to some of you.

Thanks to the people who have offered actual information on the thread topic and Id like to hear from anyone who has experience with the specific fitment.

First of all, you posted sentences, not paragraphs - unless your 2nd grade class taught you "paragraphs."

I understand there isn’t a milspec for LR-308. I understand it’s best to use a matching upper and lower set. I know Palmetto State Armory says they do not recommend or guarantee fitment of their uppers on other manufacturers lowers.

With that all out of the way...
I’m interested to see if anyone has put a PSA PA-10 upper on an aero M5 lower. Pictures and possible modifications/solutions especially welcomed.

I managed to snag a striped lower this time last year and haven’t found an upper I’m willing to spend the money on. I get the daily emails from palmetto and wonder just how far off the compatibility would be for their very reasonably priced complete uppers.

I had to enlarge the piviot pin hole in a PSA ar-15 upper to mate up with an Aero ar-15 lower so I’m not scared of a little manipulation as I’m sure there will be some needed for the .308 sized stuff.

It should be obvious why I’m hoping to make the M5 work and not go out and buy a different lower. First, I already own it. Second, I owned it before 2017 and am therefore able to make it a Bullet button equipped “assault rifle.” Save the registration comments for a different thread please.

Second, if you want a simple answer, ask a simple question. Instead, you fill your post with superfluous information about how you're breaking or not breaking a law, which is on you.

And WTF does post count have to do with it?
No biggy, s 'gunna'

[Watercadet]

No it won't fit.

Yes, machining the charging handle and/or the top portion of the lower could work. But that is just idiotic when one can purchase an appropriate (i.e., Aero) upper for about 100 bucks if you look around.

last,

U come across as kind of an *** dude.

Maybe lighten up a bit?

$100 bucks is different to each person. Since I own the equipment, doing the machining saves me almost 200 rounds of .308.

I'm not an *** but I also like to stay on topic. I don't remember calling anyone an idiot or an *** either.

Back on topic. I have seen a few threads in my research about fitting the M5 to the Alex Pro Fab complete upper. This is the type of info I'm after as it pertains to the PSA upper - pictures especially as I'm a visual learner. However, I am beginning to believe no one has tried this particular pairing. So be it, there is a first time for everything.

Aero says they are DPMS pattern. PSA makes no such claim.

[Watercadet]

First of all, you posted sentences, not paragraphs - unless your 2nd grade class taught you "paragraphs."




Second, if you want a simple answer, ask a simple question. Instead, you fill your post with superfluous information about how you're breaking or not breaking a law, which is on you.

And WTF does post count have to do with it?
No biggy, s 'gunna'

You're right. Chalk one up to your second grade teacher. On my phone's screen, the sentence looks more like a paragraph. Henceforth, I shall refer to sentences as opposed to paragraphs if necessary.

The information provided was in reference to comments which were discussing legality - not superfluous. Your avatar makes it sound like you are LE. Might want to tread lightly with your criticism while making a nexus to your department. Looks unprofessional.

Do you have any info you can add regarding the post's topic? Or are you just here to troll?

[SloChicken]

$100 bucks is different to each person. Since I own the equipment, doing the machining saves me almost 200 rounds of .308.

I'm not an *** but I also like to stay on topic. I don't remember calling anyone an idiot or an *** either.

Back on topic. I have seen a few threads in my research about fitting the M5 to the Alex Pro Fab complete upper. This is the type of info I'm after as it pertains to the PSA upper - pictures especially as I'm a visual learner. However, I am beginning to believe no one has tried this particular pairing. So be it, there is a first time for everything.

Aero says they are DPMS pattern. PSA makes no such claim.

Well, you are taking material off of two components that endure much stress.

Again, a stupid way of going about this.

I envision a buffer tube hitting the ground and somebody's lower cracking (especially if dropped on carpet).

Or one too many pulls on that newly thinned charging handle (they already flex quite a bit the way they are when used to pull against a LR308 spring.

Good luck with yo bad se'f.

You got input from some good people here and your snarky comments are not warranted.

The legality was re-introduced, despite your "command" because people don't want to see you go to jail (frankly I would kind of enjoy it the way you come across).
You, were not clear on your situation in the first post, and expecting people to be clairevoyant and know you had already built a complete rifle prior to 2017 (which you yourself contradict in your comments) is absurd.

So, again.

lighten up, or please stick with your 2 or 3 posts a year.

It will keep things nice around here.

Otherwise, maybe work on your manner of discourse, because so far, it sucks.


(Edit).

I have tried dropping a PSA upper on an Aero lower.

It won't close as the charging handle hits on the superior portion of the lower, above the buffer tube threading. IF one is able to get it closed, the charging handle will rub.

It apparently cannot be stressed enough.

If you want this to work with minimal headaches (All LRs for the most part have growing pains), then get matching components.

Better yet, get a matching rifle.

I have 3 LR308 builds, two of which are on Aero upper/lower combos.

I have one more on a TM 100% lower with an Aero Upper.

I like the TM lower a bit better as I like the more squared off machining lines, but the combination, for better or worse, is unduly tight fitting.

My Ruger 762 is a rock solid piston gun, and while about a pound heavier than my 16" aero DI build, I trust it far more. (All my LR308s I built have standard weight buffers, springs, and non-adjustable gas blocks)

I am moving to Idaho in a couple months or less, and will be suppressing quite a bit of stuff. My UMP45 will decidedly be my favorite, as it will actually be a quiet carbine, and may end up a SBR.

The point being, a piston gun with adjustable block will have far better luck than a non-adjustable DI gun, or even an adjustable gas block gun (only due to the difficulty in changing settings).

extra info for free.

Best bet, buy a quality complete upper with either adjustable piston, or at least adjustable gas block.

Build your own at your own risk.

[nate76239]

Maybe I'll price out an Aero upper and swap the PSA components over. Perhaps there will be a stripped PA-10 upper post in my future.

I don't have any Aero M5 receiver experience but I did something similar with a Quentin Defense lower, the Gen 2 PA10 upper would fit on my lower but when I put a magazine in the bolt would get stuck part way over the magazine. I got a Fulton Armory DPMS low profile upper and transferred the parts. My lower also worked with a factory DPMS oracle upper and a Daytona tactical upper.

[Watercadet]

Well, you are taking material off of two components that endure much stress.

Again, a stupid way of going about this.

I envision a buffer tube hitting the ground and somebody's lower cracking (especially if dropped on carpet).

Or one too many pulls on that newly thinned charging handle (they already flex quite a bit the way they are when used to pull against a LR308 spring.

Good luck with yo bad se'f.

You got input from some good people here and your snarky comments are not warranted.

The legality was re-introduced, despite your "command" because people don't want to see you go to jail (frankly I would kind of enjoy it the way you come across).
You, were not clear on your situation in the first post, and expecting people to be clairevoyant and know you had already built a complete rifle prior to 2017 (which you yourself contradict in your comments) is absurd.

So, again.

lighten up, or please stick with your 2 or 3 posts a year.

It will keep things nice around here.

Otherwise, maybe work on your manner of discourse, because so far, it sucks.

Don't recall "commanding" anyone. There was a request to refrain from the AW registration quagmire.

The posts, and segments there of, which have been helpful are much appreciated. When the unofficial CalGuns legal team (which had no idea, or need to know what was actually going on with this rifle) decided to chime in, I simply addressed their points.

Are you the self appointed moderator? Millennial by chance? You seem to be feeling the butthurt pretty bad. And all the name calling. Geesh!

Thanks but no thanks for your input and pure speculation. I guess I'll just have to figure it out "the stupid" way. Since you have nothing further to add to the actual topic at hand I have nothing more for you. Back to my one to two posts a year I guess.

[SloChicken]

Don't recall "commanding" anyone. There was a request to refrain from the AW registration quagmire.

The posts, and segments there of, which have been helpful are much appreciated. When the unofficial CalGuns legal team (which had no idea, or need to know what was actually going on with this rifle) decided to chime in, I simply addressed their points.

Are you the self appointed moderator? Millennial by chance? You seem to be feeling the butthurt pretty bad. And all the name calling. Geesh!

Thanks but no thanks for your input and pure speculation. I guess I'll just have to figure it out "the stupid" way. Since you have nothing further to add to the actual topic at hand I have nothing more for you. Back to my one to two posts a year I guess.

Don't pick it apart - the message is the same.

I am 50 years old, and a working medical professional.

I am not butthurt, but I am reading comments by a juvenile, no matter your age.

I offered you solid input on your quandary, and again, you come back with this.

Some peeps just don't seem to be able to get out of their own way.


Best of luck buddy.

[Watercadet]

I don't have any Aero M5 receiver experience but I did something similar with a Quentin Defense lower, the Gen 2 PA10 upper would fit on my lower but when I put a magazine in the bolt would get stuck part way over the magazine. I got a Fulton Armory DPMS low profile upper and transferred the parts. My lower also worked with a factory DPMS oracle upper and a Daytona tactical upper.

Perfect! This helps. Thank you. I assumed based on the lack of input there was something more to the puzzle. Did you find the PSA parts transferred well to the DPMS pattern uppers? I guess what I'm asking is, is the PSA upper receiver the only non DPMS part?

[Watercadet]

(Edit).

I have tried dropping a PSA upper on an Aero lower.

It won't close as the charging handle hits on the superior portion of the lower, above the buffer tube threading. IF one is able to get it closed, the charging handle will rub.

It apparently cannot be stressed enough.

If you want this to work with minimal headaches (All LRs for the most part have growing pains), then get matching components.

Better yet, get a matching rifle.

I have 3 LR308 builds, two of which are on Aero upper/lower combos.

I have one more on a TM 100% lower with an Aero Upper.

I like the TM lower a bit better as I like the more squared off machining lines, but the combination, for better or worse, is unduly tight fitting.

My Ruger 762 is a rock solid piston gun, and while about a pound heavier than my 16" aero DI build, I trust it far more. (All my LR308s I built have standard weight buffers, springs, and non-adjustable gas blocks)

I am moving to Idaho in a couple months or less, and will be suppressing quite a bit of stuff. My UMP45 will decidedly be my favorite, as it will actually be a quiet carbine, and may end up a SBR.

The point being, a piston gun with adjustable block will have far better luck than a non-adjustable DI gun, or even an adjustable gas block gun (only due to the difficulty in changing settings).

extra info for free.

Best bet, buy a quality complete upper with either adjustable piston, or at least adjustable gas block.

Build your own at your own risk.

This is great and desired info! Why couldn't you have said this in the beginning by seconding what had already been said instead of attacking my intelligence and my (typed) delivery?

The Edit added by you above is all this forum needs to be successful. The cyber * measuring contest is below us and not productive. Thanks for a meaningful post.

[nate76239]

Perfect! This helps. Thank you. I assumed based on the lack of input there was something more to the puzzle. Did you find the PSA parts transferred well to the DPMS pattern uppers? I guess what I'm asking is, is the PSA upper receiver the only non DPMS part?

The psa upper I ordered came with a Midwest Industries keymod rail, everything fit the Fulton armory upper.

[Flintlock Tom]

It started out as a stripped lower; like many have. It has been completed into a rifle before 2017 and is eligible to become a BB era RAW.

Hmmm, interesting...

And just so you don't have to wonder, yes, I AM trolling your post.

When someone points out something that you're about to do is illegal you change the story.
Entertaining, but not very mature.