Cheapest & simplest mod for keeping your AR from being an "assault weapon"

[smittty]

Hi guys, this is a topic that I've been thinking about and researching for some time.

All options are compromise and only something you can decide which is best for you.

For me, the fixed mag option turned out to be the least offensive.

Here are my thoughts on the fixed mag option:

- a member here posted a method of locking the magazine with a set screw that can only be accessed when the action is open.

He drilled and tapped a hole for a 6-32 set screw located adjacent to the bolt catch directly above the magazine release. The mod is not visible from the outside, it's reversible, and costs only a few $ if you diy. Actually, if you already have the drill bit and tap the only part you'll need is the $0.40 set screw!

- with a fixed mag configuration you get to keep the rest of your rifle intact. The grip, adjustable stock, flash hider, etc., all remain unaltered.

This was particularly important to me because the best thing about the AR rifle to me was the ergonomics.

- feeding the rifle is the compromise, however, there are already a couple speed loader/stripper clip type gadgets that make this an easier task. These gadgets cost around $40-$60 each. I'm on a pre-order for the Bear Defense gadget which is costing me $42.

Another option that I'm liking better than the speed loader gadget is using a single shot follower.

I know what you're thinking, single shot is crazy talk but lets think about it for a minute, when I'm at the range I don't blast away at my targets. I take my time and shoot for precision. It's not unusual for my friends and I to single load our rifles, we do this fairly often. This was something that my friend pointed out and even though I do this I didn't consider it until he pointed it out.

I found single shot followers for about $10. The cheapest source is a ebay seller that has them listed as a 450 socom follower but they are the same as a single shot 223 follower.

To summarize, yes, it sucks, but:
- it lets you keep you rifle without registering it as an assault weapon
- leaves you the option to restore it in the future
- costs about the same as burger & soft drink

Feel free to comment, criticize, etc.

[Stanze]

Featureless is the safest for clearing malfunctions. Add an inexpensive muzzle brake and remove any other banned features also makes it an affordable option.

Ergos aren't do bad with an ambi selector and extended mag release button and B.A.D. lever.

Con: Fugly

[smittty]

Featureless is the safest for clearing malfunctions. Add an inexpensive muzzle brake and remove any other banned features also makes it an affordable option.

Ergos aren't do bad with an ambi selector and extended mag release button and B.A.D. lever.

Con: Fugly

I agree about the featureless being fugly!

Not being able to drop the mag might be a hindrance for clearing jams but I'll choose this over super fugly.

Also, you're fugly option is costing you what I'm guessing this is, $150 for the stock, $20 for the grip, $30 for ambi safety, and $50 for a brake. That's $250, and fugly!

[REDdawn6]

In my opinion... A fixed mag, more than a bullet button is ****en stupid. Fixed mags should be on AR or AK pistols ony.
Featureless is easy. Arteel's grip is very nice and gets great reviews! A fixed stock or pinned is also easy and not hard on the eyes..

[Stanze]

I agree about the featureless being fugly!

Not being able to drop the mag might be a hindrance for clearing jams but I'll choose this over super fugly.

Also, you're fugly option is costing you what I'm guessing this is, $150 for the stock, $20 for the grip, $30 for ambi safety, and $50 for a brake. That's $250, and fugly!

You can get there the cheapest by pinning the carbine stock, getting a $20 grip wrap and cheap thread protector. I bought a Radical Firearms 5.56 NADA Zero Impulse Muzzle Brake for $20 via Primary Arms from their Memorial Day sale.

The rest are nice to haves, but not needed to go featureless.

Still fugly, but at least it's functionally, a fighting rifle.

[OniKoroshi]

I agree about the featureless being fugly!

Not being able to drop the mag might be a hindrance for clearing jams but I'll choose this over super fugly.

Also, you're fugly option is costing you what I'm guessing this is, $150 for the stock, $20 for the grip, $30 for ambi safety, and $50 for a brake. That's $250, and fugly!

$10 Aimsports stock lock
$10 strike industries simple fin grip
$15 for basic ambi safety
$5 fleabay thread protector.


Just sayin.

[A324]

Modified bolt catch such as the tier5 Solutions (MBC) that stops your bolt from stripping off a fresh round. You rifle becomes a 'single-shot' and requires the operator to operate the bolt catch to load a fresh round.

[kenl]

$10 Aimsports stock lock
$10 strike industries simple fin grip
$15 for basic ambi safety
$5 fleabay thread protector.

Just sayin.

If you want it cheaper

$10 strike industries simple fin grip
$6 strike ind. stock stop
$5 fleabay thread protector.

IMHO an ambi safety is nice but not needed

and after spending all of that $, you can drop your mag like a normal person

[Red9]

Made my own wrap 5.00. Pinned stock 2.00. Comp was 15.00.
22.00 and I have a featureless semi auto. How much cheaper can one get? The Maglock is quite awkward imho. Ok for a range toy but not so good if you were planning on using that ar for any hd or sd. You should try one first. I am sure you will find the featureless a much better option.

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[randomthought]

Magpul stocks can be pinned with a paper clip. I used a cotter pin since I had more of those laying around.

[simonp]

Hi guys, this is a topic that I've been thinking about and researching for some time.



All options are compromise and only something you can decide which is best for you.



For me, the fixed mag option turned out to be the least offensive.



Here are my thoughts on the fixed mag option:



- a member here posted a method of locking the magazine with a set screw that can only be accessed when the action is open.



He drilled and tapped a hole for a 6-32 set screw located adjacent to the bolt catch directly above the magazine release. The mod is not visible from the outside, it's reversible, and costs only a few $ if you diy. Actually, if you already have the drill bit and tap the only part you'll need is the $0.40 set screw!



- with a fixed mag configuration you get to keep the rest of your rifle intact. The grip, adjustable stock, flash hider, etc., all remain unaltered.



This was particularly important to me because the best thing about the AR rifle to me was the ergonomics.



- feeding the rifle is the compromise, however, there are already a couple speed loader/stripper clip type gadgets that make this an easier task. These gadgets cost around $40-$60 each. I'm on a pre-order for the Bear Defense gadget which is costing me $42.



Another option that I'm liking better than the speed loader gadget is using a single shot follower.



I know what you're thinking, single shot is crazy talk but lets think about it for a minute, when I'm at the range I don't blast away at my targets. I take my time and shoot for precision. It's not unusual for my friends and I to single load our rifles, we do this fairly often. This was something that my friend pointed out and even though I do this I didn't consider it until he pointed it out.



I found single shot followers for about $10. The cheapest source is a ebay seller that has them listed as a 450 socom follower but they are the same as a single shot 223 follower.



To summarize, yes, it sucks, but:

- it lets you keep you rifle without registering it as an assault weapon

- leaves you the option to restore it in the future

- costs about the same as burger & soft drink



Feel free to comment, criticize, etc.

It depends on how you use / shoot your gun. Single shot?? I have bolt actions for that honestly I'd sell my ARs before converting it into a single shot gun.

Featureless is fine for bench shooting but if your doing anything else it pretty much sucks, not sure which in fact sucks more featureless or fixed mag, the more I train and shoot the more I'm inclined to say screw it and register


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[mshill]

Hi guys, this is a topic that I've been thinking about and researching for some time.

All options are compromise and only something you can decide which is best for you.

For me, the fixed mag option turned out to be the least offensive.

Here are my thoughts on the fixed mag option:

- a member here posted a method of locking the magazine with a set screw that can only be accessed when the action is open.

He drilled and tapped a hole for a 6-32 set screw located adjacent to the bolt catch directly above the magazine release. The mod is not visible from the outside, it's reversible, and costs only a few $ if you diy. Actually, if you already have the drill bit and tap the only part you'll need is the $0.40 set screw!

- with a fixed mag configuration you get to keep the rest of your rifle intact. The grip, adjustable stock, flash hider, etc., all remain unaltered.

This was particularly important to me because the best thing about the AR rifle to me was the ergonomics.

- feeding the rifle is the compromise, however, there are already a couple speed loader/stripper clip type gadgets that make this an easier task. These gadgets cost around $40-$60 each. I'm on a pre-order for the Bear Defense gadget which is costing me $42.

Another option that I'm liking better than the speed loader gadget is using a single shot follower.

I know what you're thinking, single shot is crazy talk but lets think about it for a minute, when I'm at the range I don't blast away at my targets. I take my time and shoot for precision. It's not unusual for my friends and I to single load our rifles, we do this fairly often. This was something that my friend pointed out and even though I do this I didn't consider it until he pointed it out.

I found single shot followers for about $10. The cheapest source is a ebay seller that has them listed as a 450 socom follower but they are the same as a single shot 223 follower.

To summarize, yes, it sucks, but:
- it lets you keep you rifle without registering it as an assault weapon
- leaves you the option to restore it in the future
- costs about the same as burger & soft drink

Feel free to comment, criticize, etc.

I am glad someone found the method useful. My AR Pistols from 80% will be getting this fixed magazine and use either MA Loader or the Bear Flag Defense loader.

[OniKoroshi]

If you want it cheaper

$10 strike industries simple fin grip
$6 strike ind. stock stop
$5 fleabay thread protector.

IMHO an ambi safety is nice but not needed

and after spending all of that $, you can drop your mag like a normal person

Forgot about the SI stock lock

[robledo]

My main mama jamma already had a brake and no vfg, so a kydex grip wrap and a screw through my stock into my buffer tube = featureless for the cost of the grip wrap. Have fun not being able to reload or clear malfunctions.

[Lead Waster]

I much prefer the monsterman grip, hammerhead grip or the fin. I think actually the hammerhead grip is not bad.

Or the Thorsden FRS-15 stock, if you have the money for it.

Locked magazine sort of sucks. And you are going to single load, then just get a bolt action rifle.