FN/FAL Rifles

[RacerRTR]

Does anyone have experience with Enterprise Arms or DSA FN/FAL rifles? They both offer CA versions, but the DSA version uses stripper clips. Doing a little research before I decide what to do with my tax return. Any information would be appreciated

[RacerRTR]

Does anyone have experience with Enterprise Arms or DSA FN/FAL rifles? They both offer CA versions, but the DSA version uses stripper clips. Doing a little research before I decide what to do with my tax return. Any information would be appreciated

[Rascal]

I have a DSArms SA-58. It's a great rifle, and built very well. All FAL clones coming into the state either have to have the pistol grip removed or have a fixed 10 round mag. I used to shoot my SA-58 without the pistol grip, but it was a PITA, so I finally put the 20 rounders away in the safe and fixed a 10 rounder in the magwell, so I could use the pistol grip again. I purchased the modified mag catch from Adonis on this board and bought a 10 rounder from DSArms. I got a stripper clip scope mount from Tapco and I was good to go. Using stripper clips is a much easier way to go when loading your FAL. JMHO

[50 Freak]

I'd consider building one using a Imbel receiver from Dealers Warehouse. Then buying the stripper clip cover and the fixed 10 round mag. Will be cheaper and you probably will get something on par with DS Arms if not better for a third of the price.

Here is my quick change barrel FAL folder (total cost was about $1300). This will take a 20 inch "sniper" barrel, 16 inch carbine (as shown) and a 16 inch 9mm sten mag conversion all on one receiver.

[C.G.]

What is the url for Dealers Warehouse and do they sell the receiver with the fixed mag?

[C.G.]

Thanks for the quick reply. How is it that the receiver is legal to sell to California? Is it because it isn't on the list?

[SI-guru]

I have a DSA tactical carbine with the TAPCO rail cover. That cover is a cheap POS Chinese made cover that will wobble any scope you put on it. But they are the only game in town. I really wonder if any have tried to mill out a regular ARMS or DSA rail cover for opening with stripper guide. It should looks like a better option.



I like my SOCOM better now, at least it has detachable magazine.

[C.G.]

Thank you for the info. Now I have to go to Falfiles and figure out what is involved.

[Turbinator]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jjc:
I have a DSA tactical carbine with the TAPCO rail cover. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

JJC, that is one mean looking FAL! Nice job!

Turby

[bwiese]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">cg wrote:
How is it that the receiver is legal to sell to California? Is it because it isn't on the list? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Correct.

There are 3 classes of AWs in Calif:

&nbsp<LI> Type I: specific named AWs (manufacturer and model) from Roberti-Roos 1989 Assault Weapons Control Act (AWCA '89);

&nbsp<LI> Type II: AR and AK "series" weapons: the Aug 2000 Kasler decision essentially
classifies all ARs and AKs no matter manufacturer or model name into Type I category;

&nbsp<LI> Type III: "by feature" weapons. Semiauto rifles w/detachable mags can't have other evil features like pistol grips, flash hiders, etc.

FAL clones (a la Imbel, DSA, Coonan, etc. receivers) are Type III AWs in Calif. If they have a certain # of evil features in CA they must've been reg'd by Dec 31 2000 to be legally possessed (unless a stripper-clip-fed 10rd fixed mag "CaliFAL" version). The receiver itself here is not considered an AW.

By contrast, a true FN FAL mfgd by Fabrique Nationale was specifically banned by name; even possession of an unregistered FN FAL receiver is a crime.


Bill Wiese
San Jose

[icormba]

just under a total of $650 got me this...


it's a Israeli South African/American

larger pic:

http://m1garand.net/M1Pics/Chris/FAL/Image2.jpg

[Rascal]

jjc, I also have the Tapco stripper/scope mount on my FAL, but don't seem to be having any problems like you are having? Maybe I just got lucky, as it does hold in place and almost returns to zero when taken off and put back on to the point of just a couple of clicks to be right on zero in the horizontal (windage) mode and is right on in elavation.

[SI-guru]

Rascal,
You are a luck man. Or should I say, I am the unluck man ?

[RacerRTR]

Hey 50, Thanks for the information. Looks like I'm going to try my first from scratch build, should be fun. Once I get started I'll be coming to you for advice/help.

[pidooma]

Speaking of FALs, I just picked up my Izzy-Franken-Cali FAL at UPS which I had built/refinished by CGW. Looking forward to getting this baby out to the range.