Looking to purchase a featureless AR15 in a month or two...

[thisgsx]

Anyone here know of any other rifles that have a quick disconnect magazine release system like the Springfield Armory Saint 5.56? I saw a video of one of the reps discussing about the firearm and that feature is pretty spot on. Better than the dreaded bullet button that's for sure! Budget is $1000 or less. Thanks guys!

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[thisgsx]

Okay, after a little research, it looks like all featureless AR's don't have the dreaded bullet button anymore! A huge plus. The only reason why I've been so hesitant on buying one in the past was the bullet button. I've shot one in the past and changing mags was a total pain in the *** with the bullet button!

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[Tere_Hanges]

You can build a "featureless" AR (CA legal semiautomatic rifle) super easy from a standard stripped lower receiver way cheaper than what it will cost you to buy a factory made rifle. Well maybe not as cheap as an M&P15 or Oracle but you can build it to your custom specs.

FYI, "featureless" rifles never had to use the bullet button to begin with, that is the whole point of going "featureless". Its just that before 2017 you had the option to go "featureless" or use the bullet button. Now you cant use the bullet button.

[thisgsx]

You're right, but I'm also looking at resale value if I ever decide to sell it, I don't want it to be a no name diy build. It'll be more attractive if the rifle was made from a mainstream manufacturer such as Sig, Springfield, S&S, etc...

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[Tere_Hanges]

You're right, but I'm also looking at resale value if I ever decide to sell it, I don't want it to be a no name diy build. It'll be more attractive if the rifle was made from a mainstream manufacturer such as Sig, Springfield, S&S, etc...

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Oh yeah? Says who? ARs are so ubiquitous and easy to build, you are not going to get very much in the secondary market for any rifle even a premium brand one. Everybody and their uncke has at least 3-4 ARs by now. The market is way over saturated. You will lose your shirt. You will probably be able to dump a premium brand upper like a BCM, DD, or Noveske but youre going to take a big hit.

Why would spend a bunch of money on a premium rifle you might not want long term anyway? Doesnt make a whole lot of sense. Most people that spend big do so because they plan on keeping it forever.

[thisgsx]

Take someone like me for example, if I was in the market for a used rifle, I will never buy one that someone built it themselves. I'm not questioning their ability, I just don't trust it enough. I'd rather buy a used rifle from a well known manufacturer. Again that's my own opinion. You have yours, and you're entitled to it.

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[GTOGreg]

Market is saturated. Total buyer's market. Kinda like computers in the 90s, name brand computers were about the same price vs home-built, and then people stopped building except for the most custom needs. If you're just dipping your toes, just buy a M&P15 or whatever.

I build my own simply because I want to know the piece inside and out. Also they come here but they never leave ( I don't sell). But if resale is a concern buy whatever fits your needs off-the-rack or from a well-known boutique builder as it will hold its value better for another buyer like you that is skeptical of frankenguns (and understandably so). Who knows how much further the market will fall is anyone's guess. Buy what you need and don't look at it as an investment.

[E92335i]

Forget about resale value. Lots of AR in the classified. They are not moving.

[Tere_Hanges]

Take someone like me for example, if I was in the market for a used rifle, I will never buy one that someone built it themselves. I'm not questioning their ability, I just don't trust it enough. I'd rather buy a used rifle from a well known manufacturer. Again that's my own opinion. You have yours, and you're entitled to it.

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Resale value should be the least of your concerns when looking for an AR. The market is so saturated you will not even get close to what you paid for it. Its not the same for other types of guns like custom bolt guns or pistols. ARs are literally a dime a dozen.

Instead, what you should be thinking about is what you want in a rifle you want to keep forever and what is a reasonable value for your budget.

It just doesnt make sense to drop a grand on a brand name factory AR that sounds like you just want to play with for a few hundred rounds and then ditch it. Youre not going to get anywhere close to what you paid for it. Most everyone that wants an AR just buys a nice upper and then builds out their lower from a stripped receiver. Almost no one buys a used complete AR, especially a featureless one. If they are that new and inexperienced, they will probably just buy a new factory rifle like you, and thats why there are so many used ones that nobody wants.

Telling you, you will come out ahead and appreciate it a lot more if you build your own lower and buy an upper that is more customized to your needs.

But dont listen to me I've only had about 10 ARs. You've never owned a single one but somehow you know more than me. I thought you created this post to get advice? Are you just trolling?

You didnt even know that featureless rifles have a standard mag release ("quick disconnect", as you so put it), you thought they had to have bullet buttons. Haha! Yeah... good luck dude. You know a lot more about ARs than I do. LOL.

BTW, thanks for letting me know that I'm entitled to my own opinion. Gosh... I didn't now that Captain Obvious. Haha.

[thisgsx]

But dont listen to me I've only had about 10 ARs. You've never owned a single one but somehow you know more than me. I thought you created this post to get advice? Are you just trolling?

You didnt even know that featureless rifles have a standard mag release ("quick disconnect", as you so put it), you thought they had to have bullet buttons. Haha! Yeah... good luck dude. You know a lot more about ARs than I do. LOL.

BTW, thanks for letting me know that I'm entitled to my own opinion. Gosh... I didn't now that Captain Obvious. Haha.

Did I mention anywhere in my post that I knew more than you? Did I make this thread asking if I should build one? I created this thread asking about other AR's that have the "magazine disconnect" feature like the SA Saint. What does that tell you Einstein? Exactly!, that I have NO experience with AR'S, if I knew, you think I'd create this thread Sherlock? But since you're so high on your horse you resort to belittle me! And good luck? Haha okay bro, no need for that when like you say, the market is "saturated!"


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[TMB 1]

Resale value get a Mini-14, also don't have to worry about magazine disconnect features or bullet buttons.

Best way to go with AR is get PSA rifle kit, a lower and parts to make it featureless

[Tere_Hanges]

Did I mention anywhere in my post that I knew more than you? Did I make this thread asking if I should build one? I created this thread asking about other AR's that have the "magazine disconnect" feature like the SA Saint. What does that tell you Einstein? Exactly!, that I have NO experience with AR'S, if I knew, you think I'd create this thread Sherlock? But since you're so high on your horse you resort to belittle me! And good luck? Haha okay bro, no need for that when like you say, the market is "saturated!"


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Haha, you'll find out. Good luck, youre going to need it. Sounds like you just want to play games.

[firstkill]

I figure you should just get a rifle in your budget, and expect a 30-50% discount if you need to sell it.

mp sport II featureless 599 + tax = 650
fancy brand Daniel defense featureless 1350 + tax = 1470

maybe you could get 1200 for the Daniel defense (short 270)
mp sport II I guess you could get 450 (short 200)

I'm just rough checking prices.

Budget complete rifle seems like the easier gun to get and flip. But if you like shooting rifles/ARs, I would skip it and build a nice AR or if money allows get a fancy name brand AR and call it a day.

[Sicarius]

Colt has and always will have a following. If you are concerned about resale, you can't go too wrong with one( genuine colt, not expanses series). Daniel defense, noveske and bcm are regarded as high end. They will maintain more than a frankenbuild. M&p sport, colt expanses, and just about anything in the 600 dollar range will never sell on the secondary market.
Kevin

[labgua]

Just wondering where I can buy DD featureless in this price. Or Colt with lower price. I am in bay area and also like oking to buy my first AR within month
Thanks

I figure you should just get a rifle in your budget, and expect a 30-50% discount if you need to sell it.

mp sport II featureless 599 + tax = 650
fancy brand Daniel defense featureless 1350 + tax = 1470

maybe you could get 1200 for the Daniel defense (short 270)
mp sport II I guess you could get 450 (short 200)

I'm just rough checking prices.

Budget complete rifle seems like the easier gun to get and flip. But if you like shooting rifles/ARs, I would skip it and build a nice AR or if money allows get a fancy name brand AR and call it a day.