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  • landser1102
    Member
    • May 2007
    • 285

    14.5 barreled uppers legal to ship to CA?

    Does a 14.5 barreled upper needs to be permantly pinned (to make it min 16") before it ships to CA?
    "I have neither the time nor the patience to explain myself to someone who sleeps under the very blanket of freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it"
  • #2
    hiyabrad
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 1358

    NO. As long as it's not attached to a lower, it is legal in CA.

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    • #3
      Hispeed1
      Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 271

      Originally posted by hiyabrad
      NO. As long as it's not attached to a lower, it is legal in CA.
      Really? I always see NFA warnings on short barrels/uppers sold on the internets.

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 56961

        Originally posted by landser1102
        Does a 14.5 barreled upper needs to be permantly pinned (to make it min 16") before it ships to CA?
        As long as you don't possess a lower receiver, you are fine.
        If you already own a lower, then you would be in possession of an illegal short barreled rifle once you received the less-than-16" barrel.
        This is a federal issue.
        It's called constructive possession.

        If you also possess an AR pistol, you would be exempted of potential SBR constructive possession as the pistol lower is a legitimate use of a less-than-16" barrel.

        A lot of people have their less-than-16" barrels shipped directly to me for the addition of a permanent muzzle device.
        Last edited by ar15barrels; 02-26-2009, 3:43 PM.
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        • #5
          6172crew
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 6240

          Originally posted by Hispeed1
          Really? I always see NFA warnings on short barrels/uppers sold on the internets.
          You could mount it on a pistol lower or fix a muzzle device to bring the lenth out to 16 inches. Nothing wrong witha 14.5 inch upper unless you mount it on a rifle lower and you dont have the tax stamp along with it.
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          • #6
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 56961

            Originally posted by 6172crew
            Nothing wrong witha 14.5 inch upper unless you mount it on a rifle lower and you dont have the tax stamp along with it.
            The BATFE would disagree with that statement.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #7
              Mississippi
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 910

              Order the 14.5 and as soon as you get it in have a Flash hider thats long enough to get the 16 perm attached and go on about your life. You will be fine.

              I saw a 14.5 setting on a table for sell at a gun show not long ago. No big deal just get the legal length hider perm attached.
              Protect your integrity like you would protect your life.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 56961

                People do illegal things all the time.



                That does not make them any less illegal.
                That also does not mean that you get caught for everything you do that's illegal.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  bobfried
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1448

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  People do illegal things all the time.



                  That does not make them any less illegal.
                  That also does not mean that you get caught for everything you do that's illegal.
                  The only thing that should be illegal is how dirty that interior is!

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 56961

                    Originally posted by bobfried
                    The only thing that should be illegal is how dirty that interior is!
                    Saturday morning is my car washing time.
                    I'm usually at a match somewhere dusty every saturday morning.

                    It's not as bad as the picture makes it.
                    A good amount of that milkyness is lens flare from looking straight into the sun.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • #11
                      Lateralus
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 2041

                      Like Randall said, 14.5" barrels lying around w/ a rifle lower = Federal Constructive possession, which is a big no-no. If you want it, either permanently attach a muzzle device to bring it to 16" or have a pistol lower already in your possession, and mate those suckers like its a chinese wedding.

                      Oh, and Randall, use these
                      Last edited by Lateralus; 02-26-2009, 4:49 PM.
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                      • #12
                        6172crew
                        Moderator Emeritus
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 6240

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        The BATFE would disagree with that statement.
                        If I have a tax stamp for a SBRifle I can have a 14.5, in my case I have one for my machine gun, both require tax stamps.
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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 56961

                          Originally posted by 6172crew
                          If I have a tax stamp for a SBRifle I can have a 14.5, in my case I have one for my machine gun, both require tax stamps.
                          I'm sorry.
                          I missed where the OP said he had an SBR or an M16 already.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            6172crew
                            Moderator Emeritus
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 6240

                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            I'm sorry.
                            I missed where the OP said he had an SBR or an M16 already.
                            I thought you were quoting me when I said unless you have a tax stamp on a rifle lower you are in trouble. I re-read what i wrote and it sounds funny but this is what I meant and I think its true.
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                            • #15
                              Lateralus
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 2041

                              Originally posted by 6172crew
                              Nothing wrong witha 14.5 inch upper unless you mount it on a rifle lower and you dont have the tax stamp along with it.
                              Sorry dude, but even knowing what you meant it is still misleading. If I dont have a tax stamp (true) and dont mount it on a rifle lower (also true) Im still federally ****ed if I have any lower other than a dedicated pistol lower.
                              If you live in the Sacramento area, check your Local Forum frequently to see how you can help restore Gun Rights.
                              ----------------------------
                              I am fighting for OUR RIGHTS by donating $20 a month to the CalGuns Foundation through GunPal. It is time to step up, California.
                              ----------------------------
                              With my feet upon the ground, I move myself between the sound and Open wide to suck it in I feel It move across my skin

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