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  • jeffrice6
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 5164

    Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
    Not really, the design is why it has trouble with wandering zero the heavy reciprocating mass, the gas block design, etc make repeatability difficult. The same problem plagues the M14 (M1A).
    We all know about the inherent inaccuracy of the M14/M1A
    Stand down Chuck, we're all aware of your dissatisfaction with the Mini, & unless you personally have had a real world problem with the M1A platform I'd suggest you play the quiet game.........
    WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock

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    • TMB 1
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2012
      • 7153

      Originally posted by lordmorgul
      Ok. But any firearm with wandering zero has loose parts that are not supposed to be loose. I.e. It's either broken or badly assembled. Wanderingzero is a complaint being made against the mini and I'm saying you could make any gun have a wandering zero but that's a clear sign it's not right, not that the gun design is bad.
      Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
      Not really, the design is why it has trouble with wandering zero the heavy reciprocating mass, the gas block design, etc make repeatability difficult. The same problem plagues the M14 (M1A).
      Yes really. The Mini, M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, M14(M1A) all have to have properly fitted stocks or they can have wandering zeros. Even bolt action rifles have to have a properly fitted stocks and it's considered one of the most accurate designs.
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      • lordmorgul
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Jul 2016
        • 1203

        Originally posted by TMB 1
        Yes really. The Mini, M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, M14(M1A) all have to have properly fitted stocks or they can have wandering zeros. Even bolt action rifles have to have a properly fitted stocks and it's considered one of the most accurate designs.


        Yes loose parts that should not be... a sloppy fitted stock is exactly that.

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        • Oneaudiopro
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1183

          Hmmmmmmm

          Originally posted by Nguyen
          then you need to do some research before buying next time... if the mini14 is the most reliable rifle in your safe.
          I've owned it for over 25yrs and have never had a failure of any kind. I doubt any "research" would improve on that!
          "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty"

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          • ar15robert
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2002
            • 2468

            I have had one since 94 and with factory mags or very good mags it is very reliable its kind of my plinker beater i call it.WOnt win an accuracy contest but good enough to hit someone at a good distance.

            I use my ar for the accuracy stuff and that too is reliable but the mini i can drop in the dirt or sand and it wont miss a beat.

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            • Jimi Jah
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2014
              • 18643

              When ammo is regulated next year a more accurate option may be attractive.

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              • SloChicken
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 4533

                Originally posted by lordmorgul
                Ok. But any firearm with wandering zero has loose parts that are not supposed to be loose. I.e. It's either broken or badly assembled. Wanderingzero is a complaint being made against the mini and I'm saying you could make any gun have a wandering zero but that's a clear sign it's not right, not that the gun design is bad.
                Many speak to the overgassing causing shift d/t the op rod and bolt slamming so hard.
                Others claim poor barrel harmonics.

                Never have heard the "loose parts" phenomenon before now.
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                Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                • SloChicken
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4533

                  Originally posted by Quiet
                  If it comes with 10 or less round magazine, then yes.
                  If it comes with greater than 10 round magazine, then no.
                  I believe the tactical (16") has a flash hider. This would need to be changed to a muzzle brake/comp or just removed prior to entering CA (ffl 7 excepted).
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                  Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                  To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                  • ChuckDizzle
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 4398

                    Originally posted by jeffrice6
                    We all know about the inherent inaccuracy of the M14/M1A
                    Stand down Chuck, we're all aware of your dissatisfaction with the Mini, & unless you personally have had a real world problem with the M1A platform I'd suggest you play the quiet game.........


                    Here's a photo I took of my squad leader on an M14 in Kohi Safi Afghanistan in 2002. You may take a seat.

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                    • TMB 1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 7153

                      Originally posted by SloChicken
                      Many speak to the overgassing causing shift d/t the op rod and bolt slamming so hard.
                      Others claim poor barrel harmonics.

                      Never have heard the "loose parts" phenomenon before now.
                      If you have a loose stock the bolt slamming so hard repositions the action in the stock. Every time you remove action from stock it has to settle back in, it is the reason people bed their stocks and adjust overgassing.
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                      • SloChicken
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 4533

                        Originally posted by TMB 1
                        If you have a loose stock the bolt slamming so hard repositions the action in the stock. Every time you remove action from stock it has to settle back in, it is the reason people bed their stocks and adjust overgassing.
                        Sure is.

                        Still, if you take care of the over-gassing much of the problem will be solved, maybe a barrel brace or weight and gtg.
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                        Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                        To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                        • 23 Blast
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 3754

                          A mini 14 is best used as a club. In fact, it is even inaccurate in that regard. Using a AR-15 as a club, I can hit the same spot on an object I am trying to bludgeon with astonishing accuracy. With a Mini 14, when I try to bludgeon someone with it (usually someone disparaging it's shooting accuracy) I'm as likely to hit their heads, arms, torso, legs, hands, and back as anything else. It truly is a piece of inaccurate crap.
                          "Two dead?!? HOW?!?"
                          [sigh] "Bullets, mortar fire, heavy artillery salvos, terminal syphilis, bad luck --- the usual things, Captain."

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                          • SloChicken
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 4533

                            Originally posted by ChuckDizzle


                            Here's a photo I took of my squad leader on an M14 in Kohi Safi Afghanistan in 2002. You may take a seat.
                            Curious,
                            Any probs with your squad leaders M14?

                            Pretty sure I have seen this pic before btw.

                            (Edit)

                            Yep, this guy.






                            Pooular guy, that buddy of yours.
                            Per chance, is that you in the pic?
                            Last edited by SloChicken; 06-23-2017, 11:13 AM.
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                            Originally Posted by Cali-Shooter
                            To me, it was a fist-fight, except that I did not counter-attack.

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                            • alpha_romeo_XV
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 2949

                              Originally posted by TMB 1
                              If you have a loose stock the bolt slamming so hard repositions the action in the stock. Every time you remove action from stock it has to settle back in, it is the reason people bed their stocks and adjust overgassing.
                              Or just buy a bolt action rifle that comes with a free floated barrel in a pillar bedded stock right from the factory.

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                              • TMB 1
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 7153

                                Originally posted by alpha_romeo_XV
                                Or just buy a bolt action rifle that comes with a free floated barrel in a pillar bedded stock right from the factory.
                                But it don't take Mini-14 magazines.
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