muzzle brake or no

[tommyid1]

i want this for a featureless build. is it legal?

http://www.nokick.com/PWS_FSC30_p/pws%20ar-fsc30.htm

Primary Weapons Systems (PWS) FSC30
The FSC30 Tactical Compensator is designed for recoil reduction and has all of the compensation of the standard DNTC308 compensator combined with enough flash suppression to keep the flash out of your optics and line of sight. Now you can have both effective recoil control and effective flash reduction in one unit. Designed for .308 caliber rifles as well as rifles chambered for 6.8 SPC and 6.5 Grendal as long as they have the 5/8x24 RH thread pattern. Very effective recoil control making your more powerful AR series rifle easy to control in rapid fire. Is officially designated as a non-flash suppressing device by BATFE. Precision machined from high quality steels, made in USA, with a lifetime warranty from the manufacturer. This is definitely one of the best large caliber AR muzzle brakes available. Recommended for self defense, tactical and competition applications.

This unit is 2.75" in length, .960" in diameter and is threaded 5/8x24 RH.




Features

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Effective recoil reduction combined with effective flash reduction for your large caliber AR series rifles. Optimized for both .308 and 6.8 SPC bullets. Makes large caliber AR rifles fast and easy to shoot. Muzzle climb and recoil drastically reduced. Unique design, high quality, lifetime warranty, made in USA.

[jchen76@gmail.com]

I'd be wary that the manufacture states it's 'effective flash reduction' if going featureless build.

[railroader]

I'd be wary that the manufacture states it's 'effective flash reduction' if going featureless build.

I agree. Mark

[EBR Works]

I have this same PWS designed comp on an AK pistol. Without the comp there is a huge fireball. With it, there is none.

[tommyid1]

crap i like that one

[mattmcg]

All comps have some form of flash reduction. It's just the nature of the beast. Given that they sell and market this as a "tactical compensator" you are probably on the safe side but trending towards a gray area given any recognition toward effective flash suppression. The laws are really pitiful around definition of a flash suppressor versus compensator.

[djleisure]

I'd say go for it. The description specifically states: "Is officially designated as a non-flash suppressing device by BATFE."

That's pretty clear cut to me.

[mattmcg]

I'd say go for it. The description specifically states: "Is officially designated as a non-flash suppressing device by BATFE."

That's pretty clear cut to me.

Hmmm, didn't see that at first glance. BATFE designation means you're good to go!

[aplinker]

Hmmm, didn't see that at first glance. BATFE designation means you're good to go!

I wouldn't be so quick there.

The CA definition of a flash suppressor says anything that hides or redirects the flash from the shooter. This clearly does that.

Legend has it PWS has paper from the DOJ, but until they're willing to post it or show it, it's just rumor.

It's better to be safe than sorry on this. Just get the comp without the front tongs.

[randy]

If you want a comp buy a comp. If you want a FH buy a FH. If you buy one that does it all it won't do either well.

The JP comp listed on their page works great as a comp. The FH/Comp/suspressor mount from Sure Fire leave something to be desired as a comp. I've not tried to mount a supressor and they don't shoot 3 gun at night, so I can't attest how it works for the rest.

[mecam]

Test case anybody?

[aplinker]

If you want a comp buy a comp. If you want a FH buy a FH. If you buy one that does it all it won't do either well.

The JP comp listed on their page works great as a comp. The FH/Comp/suspressor mount from Sure Fire leave something to be desired as a comp. I've not tried to mount a supressor and they don't shoot 3 gun at night, so I can't attest how it works for the rest.

Randy,

Normally I agree with you, but the PWS FSC is actually very good at both. It's designed primarily as a brake, but the end prongs are actually very effective as a FH. There are some very telling photo comparisons that show it performs quite well.

[tommyid1]

I have a copy of that letter from the atf regarding that brake. Only thing that concerns me is the ca definition. But would the atf deffinition supercede state deffinition since the state deffinition contradicts the fed?

[EBR Works]

I have a copy of that letter from the atf regarding that brake. Only thing that concerns me is the ca definition. But would the atf deffinition supercede state deffinition since the state deffinition contradicts the fed?

Do you feel lucky?

[tommyid1]

Ill just throw it on a fixed mag build I guess