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  • jimbo74
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 2923

    "Mil-spec"

    What exactly does "mil-spec" mean? I have seen several manufacturers say a 6061 lets say charging handle is mil-spec. Several others say their 7075 is. Which one is actually mil-spec? My current buffer tube is PSA with a 3oz buffer (pretty sure it is 6061). My new buffer from Aero Precision is a 7075 with a 2.95 oz?! buffer. Which is mil-spec? Would it be worth it to swap out my 6061 for the 7075? Or does it not really matter?

    As far as mil-spec, honestly, we can't have military spec for stuff, on an AR15 platform, as the M platform, is actually quite different. A mil-spec hammer, has a little extra tab, that an AR15 doesn't have, even if it says mil-spec. How can it be called "mil-spec" if the part actually isn't what would be sepcified. you wouldn't put an AR15 hammer, in an M16.....

    I actually have the pdf of the specifications, and being former military, I can somewhat read them I don't see the specification of the actual material composition in the parts.



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    GM4spd
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2008
    • 5682

    Probably one of the most overused terms on CG. I do know from some of the
    posts on here ---by "angry beavers"throwing together AR types--- they will
    use anything that has " mil-spec" advertised on it. Their primary goal is how
    cheap their mil-spec is--to enhance their bragging rights on their ultimate
    build.

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    • #3
      PolishMike
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2007
      • 6034

      There is a good read about it somewhere but to sum it up, unless it is from someone building parts to TDP, it doesn't mean anything. It's a marketing term. That is all.


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      • #4
        CouchOperator
        Veteran Member
        • May 2016
        • 4353

        “Milspec” is a sales buzzword that provides a loose definition of the minimum standard of quality for a specific dependable combat weapon. There are several brands that say they are mil…


        In short, that ^. Its an extremely specific configuration.

        Originally posted by jimbo74
        I actually have the pdf of the specifications, and being former military, I can somewhat read them I don't see the specification of the actual material composition in the parts.
        I also almost guarantee you dont actually have the TDP. Im calling BS on that right here and now. Your AFSC did not grant you that information. Period. (Unless you stole it, and in that case, good luck!) "Being military" doesnt have jack **** to do with access to documents that are pretty much on lockdown.
        Last edited by CouchOperator; 04-21-2017, 8:31 AM.

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        • #5
          Exdc
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 893

          Possibly slightly better quality than "tactical" and "aircraft grade".


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          • #6
            Dogbite
            Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 407

            6061 Aluminum is easy to repair.
            7075 is harder less prone to wear and a pain in the ARSS to repair.
            Mill spec is a generic term as to certain specifications supposedly to be followed.
            Example - Hole size & spacing, general dimensions, coating, heat treatment, ECT
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            • #7
              nedro
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 4130

              When the military accepts a piece of equipment, a blueprint is created as the standard. That becomes mil-spec. That is it. Nothing more and nothing less.
              Why this comes up every three months is beyond me.

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              • #8
                Dogbite
                Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 407

                Originally posted by nedro
                When the military accepts a piece of equipment, a blueprint is created as the standard. That becomes mil-spec. That is it. Nothing more and nothing less.
                Why this comes up every three months is beyond me.
                Agreed but -When most now-a-days say MIll Spec -
                Mill spec is a generic term as to certain specifications supposedly to be followed.
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                • #9
                  mif_slim
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 10089

                  If you ain't got mil-spec, you ain't that operate'n!
                  Originally posted by Gottmituns
                  It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                  • #10
                    hermosabeach
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19101

                    What is Tactical?

                    Mil spec and milmspec fluid are easy to identify


                    As to your gun... is it a fighting rifle? If yes, have a solid gun and run it in a few classes to verify that it works as needed....
                    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                    • #11
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 17918

                      Lowest competing contract bider = mil spec.

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                      • #12
                        TMB 1
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 7153

                        mil-spec http://www.midwayusa.com/product/866...aluminum-black vs mil spec http://www.midwayusa.com/product/375...aluminum-black
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                        • #13
                          Kwikvette
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 3704

                          Originally posted by jimbo74
                          I actually have the pdf of the specifications, and being former military, I can somewhat read them I don't see the specification of the actual material composition in the parts.
                          Originally posted by CouchOperator


                          I also almost guarantee you dont actually have the TDP. Im calling BS on that right here and now. Your AFSC did not grant you that information. Period. (Unless you stole it, and in that case, good luck!) "Being military" doesnt have jack **** to do with access to documents that are pretty much on lockdown.
                          I read that and almost spilled my redbull this morning

                          OPSEC brother, OPSEC! Thanks for your service, but having been in the military granted you no such privileges unless you're referring to company SOP's. Let's not forget that most service members only shot a rifle maybe once a year for qual.

                          Mil-spec in the end is just an overused, overrated term.
                          Originally posted by longrange1
                          my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
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                          Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                          • #14
                            Tac driver
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1077

                            Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                            Lowest competing contract bider = mil spec.
                            This ^^^^^
                            http://americangunfacts.com

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                            • #15
                              ChuckDizzle
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 4398

                              Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                              Lowest competing contract bider = mil spec.
                              Maybe for some things, but I had pretty good gear when I was in. It would cost me close to 3 grand to buy a rifle like my M4 with all the tactical stuff on it.

                              As,a photographer I was always shooting top of the line DSLR's with fast f2.8 zooms.

                              Camenga still makes a compass that's better than 99% of the market.

                              Wiley X goggles weren't cheap either.

                              I'll say they skimped on our HMMWV and computers.

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