Featureless or wishful thinking

[D4C4C8]

Our issue is that often 3 different sized people fire the same AR. So if the stock on one of our ARs is pinned as it currently is in the shortest position for my wife, it's a bit short for me and uncomfortably short for our son.

Then I look at the long range .308 a friend just completed using the MAGPUL PRS stock and fairing on the grip.

Got me thinking, would pinning and welding a collar around the receiver extension that prevents the stock from collapsing beyond the shortest position be valid?

[LeadFarmer74]

Our issue is that often 3 different sized people fire the same AR. So if the stock on one of our ARs is pinned as it currently is in the shortest position for my wife, it's a bit short for me and uncomfortably short for our son.

Then I look at the long range .308 a friend just completed using the MAGPUL PRS stock and fairing on the grip.

Got me thinking, would pinning and welding a collar around the receiver extension that prevents the stock from collapsing beyond the shortest position be valid?

With the stock being able to move it is collapsible and therefore would not be in the featureless category anymore. That's an interesting point you bring up though that just adds another issue to shooting in CA.

[Strykeback]

Just means you need 3 different builds pinning a stock at the correct length for each person. Welcome to california where they tax everything until its not affordable to do

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[onelonehorseman]

Perhaps some kind of stock block that could be slipped over the rear of the stock for the longer reaching shooters?

[NIKSD]

Is it legal to modify the stock on a way that will allow you to change the length of pull using tool/tools?

[DrewTheBrave]

Perhaps some kind of stock block that could be slipped over the rear of the stock for the longer reaching shooters?

A removable recoil pad, perhaps? I like this idea. If I remember correctly, the Gen 2 Thorsden FRS stock concept looked like it had some removable spacers at the end.

[CoopsDad]

A bullet button for adjustable stocks? I am so over this stupid state, its liberal majority and its corrupt, incompetent politicians.

[black_bunny]

one thing to take note but again its at your own digression how you want to interpret the law. the law states "A folding or telescoping stock." no where does it state "must be permanently fixed" that being said i personally will be pinning my stocks in a way that can be changed if need be but still be fixed during normal operation. again use your own digression and creativity, look around the internet and im sure you can come up with a solution that should work for you and still be inline with the law.

[Jimi Jah]

Build 3 lowers. Set each stock at a different LOP. Problem solved. I did that for my wife's AR, it's shorter than I can use but perfect for her.

[lwbyo1]

Order one of these pin kits. M4 Stock Lock Pin. It's designed to work with M4 style stocks, B5 Sopmod and bravo stocks, etc........ It should work on any stock that uses the same style adjustment lever.

Whenever it's someone else's turn to use the rifle, just remove the stock and move the locking tab to the correct slot on the receiver ext. for their LOP. Slide the stock back on, tighten it down and you're GTG.

Found their install guide. I like to keep the lever attached. I think it looks better with it on.

[SUBSONIC]

one thing to take note but again its at your own digression how you want to interpret the law. the law states "A folding or telescoping stock." no where does it state "must be permanently fixed" that being said i personally will be pinning my stocks in a way that can be changed if need be but still be fixed during normal operation. again use your own digression and creativity, look around the internet and im sure you can come up with a solution that should work for you and still be inline with the law.

I believe and have always said that the AR15 style stock is an "adjustable stock", it is truly different than any other type, it is the exception.
This type of butstock can only be made longer, not shorter as it is always a usable butstock by different sized people(children, "little people", women, etc).
Other types(Uzi, AK,HK, etc) when "put away" are no longer usable as a butstock. (Please see below for CA state original definitions...)
Stock - The part of a rifle, carbine or shotgun to which the barrel assembly is attached and which provides a means for
holding the weapon to the shoulder.
Stock, collapsing - A stock which is shortened by allowing one section to telescope into another.
Stock, folding - A stock which is hinged to the receiver to allow the stock to be folded next to the receiver to reduce the
overall length of the firearm.
The AR15 Buffer-tube is part of the action, not part of either type of butstock, adjustable or unadjustable. They only attach to the buffer tube which is part of the action.
The AR15 adjustable butstock is not comprised of "sections" it is a one piece stock and attaches to the buffer tube as the standard, unadjustable, stock does also.
That being said ....this is just my humble opinion not legal advice.